WTF? Turkish Editor Probably

[gegev]

Re: WTF? Turkish Editor Probably

I just want you to know that how powerful country is Turkey.
It can just be dream for you to get back the lands you claim to be yours.
Please someone answer me, if you know a little about the history, you can know that .............

The question was not about the American powerful military bases located in Turkey.

I am speaking according to wikipedia. (Check from Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenians )

According to you, 90.000 X 100 = 9 millions

If 9 millions Armenians were living here, how about genocide ?

Be careful when you claim something.

The part of the survived western Armenians on their land (now called Turky) have been enforced to hide their nationality and during the long period (about 100 years) you get the number.

Now when you want to become an EU member and because, as you claim, it is a Christian Club, many Turks will convert to Christianity and/or claim that they are Armenians to get approval to be the Club member and enjoy their high living standard benefits.

The question is: Do you want to join EU?

[Hellektor]

Re: WTF? Turkish Editor Probably

you claim the genocide but my grandparents were killed by Armenians like somebody from their village killed some Armenians.
There were battles, conflicts but there wasn't a genocide.

...Please someone answer me, if you know a little about the history, you can know that Armenians really had upper positions in the Ottoman Empire than any other nations, and really were treated like brothers for centuries.
If Turks were only killers, why we wouldn't kill all Armenians for 1000 year and wait?

The usual Turk deniers crap... We have answered these rectal ejaculations quadrillions of gazillion times. I post the following for a change:

In response to the parasite that claims Armenians died in communal clashes: “It was war, people died.” (15/11/2007)

Accidentally

It all happened accidentally…
There was no intention to hurt anyone
Nor any design to usurp all they had
Accidentally everything went wrong
And all good intents came out looking bad

Poor omnipotent empire of the faithful
Had striven to make the compulsory journey
For treacherous infidels engaged in mutiny
As agreeable and pleasant as a joyful dream

Though being attacked and betrayed without end
The founders of all human culture
Were too short of means and especially of “men”
To take proper care of rebellious traitors
Who, although outnumbered their guides hundredfold
At least, and despite immense amounts of weaponry
That they carried unchecked and skills they hid
With which they could kill
More than two and a half million believers,
Weren’t in state to revolt against their gracious captors

Accidentally the somehow untrained soldiers
Mistook the instruction that clearly screamed
“To Disneyland” and as a result of an error
(An accidental outbreak of dyslexia ‘twas deemed)
They all misread the address as “Deir ez Zor”

Incidentally they raped the rebels
Though not on purpose but by sheer mishap
Frequently they robbed them as well
Neither was there any prior resolve in that

Accidentally Kurds would cross their path
Not that they were informed of the arrival
At such luxurious wasteland, of merry masses
Of dangerous subjects, at their disposal

Pillage and slaughter, torture and abuse
Was the accidental order of the day
However tragic it was not ordered
They merely obeyed their instincts of beasts of prey

Contrary to the innocent scheme
Only the landlord was completely wiped
Off their homeland for millennia and therein.
Which evil mind can see machination devised?

Is it an event worthy of notice
That accidentally the “faithful” survived
And using the genes of despoiled orphans
Bred like rodents and multiplied
While the last memories of banished natives
Accidentally turned to dust or vanished?
(So the culprits think and make believe)

Accidentally just the temples of those gone
Are razed to the ground, in war exercises
With the supposed followers of Christ
Who couldn’t care less for history they never had
And the monuments of the people of God’s Lamb
Are reduced to cinder, accidentally one must add,
While the phallic symbols of the devil firmly stand

How can anyone even doubt or dispute
The sincerity of a species of manlike creatures
That has not yet acquired the attributes
Of civilized men: shame, remorse and guilt,
Honesty and sincerity their commonest features?

….

Yet it was unwanted, a misfortune
That only the owners of the land perished
Of accidental hunger and fatigue
And unintentional butchery and bloodshed
Agonized to death on the burning sands
In the least a well thought and carried out plan

So claim the scavengers on two legs
Wolves in men’s skin hyenas in man’s shape
That accidentally broke into others’ home
And certainly out of there will they be thrown

[despina]

Re: WTF? Turkish Editor Probably

Turkey has never given Armenia 12 points but they do give us high points each and every year. Turkey and "azerbaijan" are locked every year to give each other 12 points. The explanation i've heard for why/how Turkey gives Armenia points every year is the Armenian community there who works hard on it but don't know how much of it is accurate.

But anyway, the 1 point we gave to "azerbaijan" should not have happened. That was beyond ridiculous.

Well, politics play a high role in the ESC, that's sad but true. I used to live in Istanbul when I was a high schooler, and I can tell that Turkish people want peace, not war. And for the azerbaijan thing, Turks say that we are a nation with Azerbaijan, but just two different governments. Turks feel close to Azerbaijan, I must say. They do want to feel close to Armenians too but politics and "genocide issue" bans this.
Don't get me wrong, I do recognize the genocide but that was not made to destroy the Armenian race, the Ottoman government didn't want that but it ended up like that. I'm pretty sure about that cause when i was in the high school, I read tons of documents about it..

[Tiko310]

Re: WTF? Turkish Editor Probably

Well, politics play a high role in the ESC, that's sad but true. I used to live in Istanbul when I was a high schooler, and I can tell that Turkish people want peace, not war. And for the azerbaijan thing, Turks say that we are a nation with Azerbaijan, but just two different governments. Turks feel close to Azerbaijan, I must say. They do want to feel close to Armenians too but politics and "genocide issue" bans this.
Don't get me wrong, I do recognize the genocide but that was not made to destroy the Armenian race, the Ottoman government didn't want that but it ended up like that. I'm pretty sure about that cause when i was in the high school, I read tons of documents about it..

did you go to high school in turkey? if you did your education on the armenian genocide is worthless.

[despina]

Re: WTF? Turkish Editor Probably

did you go to high school in turkey? if you did your education on the armenian genocide is worthless.

well, i recognize the genocide. I support the armenian side on that. But what i was trying to say is the purpose was not to mass kill armenians.. it ended up that way.
I only went to hs on the 1st year at turkey.

[Tiko310]

Re: WTF? Turkish Editor Probably

a genocide is "mass killings" of a race. how else would you get rid of them. how can there be a genocide without mass killings. what was the purpose, asking US to kill ourselves?

[despina]

Re: WTF? Turkish Editor Probably

purpose was to take armenians away from the fighting area, but many many Armenians got robbed, and died on the way.

[hrai]

Re: WTF? Turkish Editor Probably

purpose was to take armenians away from the fighting area, but many many Armenians got robbed, and died on the way.

despina, you're simply quoting turc denialist junk here............if you learnt this in HS in turkey, we can forgive you and educate you with the FACTS, did you learn this in Greece or turkey?

[despina]

Re: WTF? Turkish Editor Probably

despina, you're simply quoting turc denialist junk here............if you learnt this in HS in turkey, we can forgive you and educate you with the FACTS, did you learn this in Greece or turkey?

yea, actually that's what i was thought in Bolis. I'd like to learn the facts.I'm gonna read it on forum. But as a person whom has lived among the Turks, I don't say that they are bad people. Let's agree on those. We can't judge the whole Turkish people for what has done in the past. Turkish people today are not mass killers, I can say. In the past they might have done evil stuff I admit but that doesn't mean every Turk is evil. ok?

[KanadaHye]

Re: WTF? Turkish Editor Probably

yea, actually that's what i was thought in Bolis. I'd like to learn the facts.I'm gonna read it on forum. But as a person whom has lived among the Turks, I don't say that they are bad people. Let's agree on those. We can't judge the whole Turkish people for what has done in the past. Turkish people today are not mass killers, I can say. In the past they might have done evil stuff I admit but that doesn't mean every Turk is evil. ok?

I was born in Bolis, I know modern Turks aren't "evil" but there are those that deny our right to existence by denying the genocide. This all comes from what the Turkish government teaches them.