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  • #31
    Re: WTF? Turkish Editor Probably

    Originally posted by stratosfer
    I just want you to know that how powerful country is Turkey.
    It can just be dream for you to get back the lands you claim to be yours.
    Please someone answer me, if you know a little about the history, you can know that .............
    The question was not about the American powerful military bases located in Turkey.

    Originally posted by Yakamoz
    I am speaking according to wikipedia. (Check from Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenians )

    According to you, 90.000 X 100 = 9 millions

    If 9 millions Armenians were living here, how about genocide ?

    Be careful when you claim something.
    Originally posted by gegev View Post
    The part of the survived western Armenians on their land (now called Turky) have been enforced to hide their nationality and during the long period (about 100 years) you get the number.

    Now when you want to become an EU member and because, as you claim, it is a Christian Club, many Turks will convert to Christianity and/or claim that they are Armenians to get approval to be the Club member and enjoy their high living standard benefits.
    The question is: Do you want to join EU?
    Last edited by gegev; 05-23-2009, 10:56 PM.

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    • #32
      Re: WTF? Turkish Editor Probably

      Originally posted by stratosfer
      you claim the genocide but my grandparents were killed by Armenians like somebody from their village killed some Armenians.
      There were battles, conflicts but there wasn't a genocide.

      ...Please someone answer me, if you know a little about the history, you can know that Armenians really had upper positions in the Ottoman Empire than any other nations, and really were treated like brothers for centuries.
      If Turks were only killers, why we wouldn't kill all Armenians for 1000 year and wait?
      The usual Turk deniers crap... We have answered these rectal ejaculations quadrillions of gazillion times. I post the following for a change:

      In response to the parasite that claims Armenians died in communal clashes: “It was war, people died.” (15/11/2007)

      Accidentally

      It all happened accidentally…
      There was no intention to hurt anyone
      Nor any design to usurp all they had
      Accidentally everything went wrong
      And all good intents came out looking bad

      Poor omnipotent empire of the faithful
      Had striven to make the compulsory journey
      For treacherous infidels engaged in mutiny
      As agreeable and pleasant as a joyful dream

      Though being attacked and betrayed without end
      The founders of all human culture
      Were too short of means and especially of “men”
      To take proper care of rebellious traitors
      Who, although outnumbered their guides hundredfold
      At least, and despite immense amounts of weaponry
      That they carried unchecked and skills they hid
      With which they could kill
      More than two and a half million believers,
      Weren’t in state to revolt against their gracious captors

      Accidentally the somehow untrained soldiers
      Mistook the instruction that clearly screamed
      “To Disneyland” and as a result of an error
      (An accidental outbreak of dyslexia ‘twas deemed)
      They all misread the address as “Deir ez Zor”

      Incidentally they raped the rebels
      Though not on purpose but by sheer mishap
      Frequently they robbed them as well
      Neither was there any prior resolve in that

      Accidentally Kurds would cross their path
      Not that they were informed of the arrival
      At such luxurious wasteland, of merry masses
      Of dangerous subjects, at their disposal

      Pillage and slaughter, torture and abuse
      Was the accidental order of the day
      However tragic it was not ordered
      They merely obeyed their instincts of beasts of prey

      Contrary to the innocent scheme
      Only the landlord was completely wiped
      Off their homeland for millennia and therein.
      Which evil mind can see machination devised?

      Is it an event worthy of notice
      That accidentally the “faithful” survived
      And using the genes of despoiled orphans
      Bred like rodents and multiplied
      While the last memories of banished natives
      Accidentally turned to dust or vanished?
      (So the culprits think and make believe)

      Accidentally just the temples of those gone
      Are razed to the ground, in war exercises
      With the supposed followers of Christ
      Who couldn’t care less for history they never had
      And the monuments of the people of God’s Lamb
      Are reduced to cinder, accidentally one must add,
      While the phallic symbols of the devil firmly stand

      How can anyone even doubt or dispute
      The sincerity of a species of manlike creatures
      That has not yet acquired the attributes
      Of civilized men: shame, remorse and guilt,
      Honesty and sincerity their commonest features?

      ….

      Yet it was unwanted, a misfortune
      That only the owners of the land perished
      Of accidental hunger and fatigue
      And unintentional butchery and bloodshed
      Agonized to death on the burning sands
      In the least a well thought and carried out plan

      So claim the scavengers on two legs
      Wolves in men’s skin hyenas in man’s shape
      That accidentally broke into others’ home
      And certainly out of there will they be thrown

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      • #33
        Re: WTF? Turkish Editor Probably

        Originally posted by Federate View Post
        Turkey has never given Armenia 12 points but they do give us high points each and every year. Turkey and "azerbaijan" are locked every year to give each other 12 points. The explanation i've heard for why/how Turkey gives Armenia points every year is the Armenian community there who works hard on it but don't know how much of it is accurate.

        But anyway, the 1 point we gave to "azerbaijan" should not have happened. That was beyond ridiculous.
        Well, politics play a high role in the ESC, that's sad but true. I used to live in Istanbul when I was a high schooler, and I can tell that Turkish people want peace, not war. And for the azerbaijan thing, Turks say that we are a nation with Azerbaijan, but just two different governments. Turks feel close to Azerbaijan, I must say. They do want to feel close to Armenians too but politics and "genocide issue" bans this.
        Don't get me wrong, I do recognize the genocide but that was not made to destroy the Armenian race, the Ottoman government didn't want that but it ended up like that. I'm pretty sure about that cause when i was in the high school, I read tons of documents about it..

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        • #34
          Re: WTF? Turkish Editor Probably

          Originally posted by despina View Post
          Well, politics play a high role in the ESC, that's sad but true. I used to live in Istanbul when I was a high schooler, and I can tell that Turkish people want peace, not war. And for the azerbaijan thing, Turks say that we are a nation with Azerbaijan, but just two different governments. Turks feel close to Azerbaijan, I must say. They do want to feel close to Armenians too but politics and "genocide issue" bans this.
          Don't get me wrong, I do recognize the genocide but that was not made to destroy the Armenian race, the Ottoman government didn't want that but it ended up like that. I'm pretty sure about that cause when i was in the high school, I read tons of documents about it..
          did you go to high school in turkey? if you did your education on the armenian genocide is worthless.

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          • #35
            Re: WTF? Turkish Editor Probably

            Originally posted by Tiko310 View Post
            did you go to high school in turkey? if you did your education on the armenian genocide is worthless.
            well, i recognize the genocide. I support the armenian side on that. But what i was trying to say is the purpose was not to mass kill armenians.. it ended up that way.
            I only went to hs on the 1st year at turkey.

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            • #36
              Re: WTF? Turkish Editor Probably

              a genocide is "mass killings" of a race. how else would you get rid of them. how can there be a genocide without mass killings. what was the purpose, asking US to kill ourselves?

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              • #37
                Re: WTF? Turkish Editor Probably

                purpose was to take armenians away from the fighting area, but many many Armenians got robbed, and died on the way.

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                • #38
                  Re: WTF? Turkish Editor Probably

                  Originally posted by despina View Post
                  purpose was to take armenians away from the fighting area, but many many Armenians got robbed, and died on the way.
                  despina, you're simply quoting turc denialist junk here............if you learnt this in HS in turkey, we can forgive you and educate you with the FACTS, did you learn this in Greece or turkey?

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                  • #39
                    Re: WTF? Turkish Editor Probably

                    Originally posted by hrai View Post
                    despina, you're simply quoting turc denialist junk here............if you learnt this in HS in turkey, we can forgive you and educate you with the FACTS, did you learn this in Greece or turkey?
                    yea, actually that's what i was thought in Bolis. I'd like to learn the facts.I'm gonna read it on forum. But as a person whom has lived among the Turks, I don't say that they are bad people. Let's agree on those. We can't judge the whole Turkish people for what has done in the past. Turkish people today are not mass killers, I can say. In the past they might have done evil stuff I admit but that doesn't mean every Turk is evil. ok?

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                    • #40
                      Re: WTF? Turkish Editor Probably

                      Originally posted by despina View Post
                      yea, actually that's what i was thought in Bolis. I'd like to learn the facts.I'm gonna read it on forum. But as a person whom has lived among the Turks, I don't say that they are bad people. Let's agree on those. We can't judge the whole Turkish people for what has done in the past. Turkish people today are not mass killers, I can say. In the past they might have done evil stuff I admit but that doesn't mean every Turk is evil. ok?

                      I was born in Bolis, I know modern Turks aren't "evil" but there are those that deny our right to existence by denying the genocide. This all comes from what the Turkish government teaches them.
                      "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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