Inter Racial Armenians-Blacks Families: (Small?) Bridges To The Important Black World

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Inter Racial Armenians-Blacks Families: (Small?) Bridges To The Important Black W

The reproduction levels of native Western Europeans is rather low, while those of Arabs and other Muslim immigrants is much higher. Of course this is all a long process (won't happen overnight) but the demographic shift is happening given this is how the reproduction levels remain. But that's not the main thing that I'm taking away from it, but the notion of multiculturalism that is destroying the national character of those countries and trying to create some sort of international utopia.

even in 100 years they will not replace the indigenous population. Even if their number doubles they will be a minority nothing more, and in a generation or two they will not exist as a minority and would have blended into the new culture. The only shift that is happening is in the head of some people like the BNP.

[Mos]

Re: Inter Racial Armenians-Blacks Families: (Small?) Bridges To The Important Black W

explain to me how in gods name ten percent will ever replace the rest of the 90%, you are repeating one of the most retarded ideas ever created. That of Eurabia. In this idea you are assuming that for some reason the local population (90%) stops reproducing. Turks, Moroccans or any one else will never ever replace the indigenous population.

The reproduction levels of native Western Europeans is rather low, while those of Arabs and other Muslim immigrants is much higher. Of course this is all a long process (won't happen overnight) but the demographic shift is happening given this is how the reproduction levels remain. But that's not the main thing that I'm taking away from it, but the notion of multiculturalism that is destroying the national character of those countries and trying to create some sort of international utopia.

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Inter Racial Armenians-Blacks Families: (Small?) Bridges To The Important Black W

I agree that as of know, the biggest problem that our people are facing is the "White Genocide" in the diaspora, especially in Western countries. I think this is very well reflected in my quote in my signature, which I think should be spread.

Western Europe as a whole has lost much of its national Christian character due to the failure that has come about because of multiculturalism. Over time, the native folks will become minority, and you will have Turks/Arabs and other Muslims as the majority. That is why for guest workers we should stay away from blacks, muslims, and Turks (of course), and attract white Christian folks, especially from countries like Greece or Serbia - of course if it is absolutely needed.

explain to me how in gods name ten percent will ever replace the rest of the 90%, you are repeating one of the most retarded ideas ever created. That of Eurabia. In this idea you are assuming that for some reason the local population (90%) stops reproducing. Turks, Moroccans or any one else will never ever replace the indigenous population.

[Mos]

Re: Inter Racial Armenians-Blacks Families: (Small?) Bridges To The Important Black W

Again, I don't agree that it was multiculturalism but some political forces whose goals it to make people only think about sex, partying, and paying their taxes on time, rather than politics, country, culture, etc.

I would say more it was the dawn of a new culture that has enveloped the Western World. Ever since WW2, nationalism, recognition of culture has decreased throughout the Western World.

I don't agree with this. Armenians are not imperialist by blood, Russians far less than Europeans and so are Chinese. Mostly European countries were the ones invading other countries, destroying many civilizations and stealing whatever they could to become rich. Also the Turkic nations have been doing this on a large scale.

During the time of Europe's power, several of its power did participate in imperialistic games. But when it was not in its power (e.g. Dark Ages) you had other powers that pursued imperialistic goals, for example Mongols, Arabs, and some of the Chinese dynasties. Russians were part of European history during Europe's reign of history and power (Napoleonic Wars). During Soviet time, one could say that the Afghanistan War was an imperialist one.

The white genocide will only be stopped if we have a strong Armenia. If we had an own religion (not Christianity, as all the Armenian girls mary foreigners under the motto of "they are also Christian"), this would have also helped, but the things are the way they are. More than 95% of the American-Armenians are lost. We should focus on bringing Russian-Armenians back to Armenia, after we have solved all our problems in Armenia. The territory of Armenia today is too small to support a big population (maximum 4-5 million), hopefully one day this will change for the better.

America is created for assimilation. It's culture, mindset, etc all encourage such assimilation. In Russia, Armenians are in better situation in this regard. However, Armenians in both Russia and America, and rest of the world, need to be saved from such doom. It's a very sad sight to see a person with Armenian last name, not know the language, history, and any connections of armenians. The even more assimilated people will even go as far as changing their last name, or shortening it, in order to make it more "Western". Disgusting.

[Tigranakert]

Re: Inter Racial Armenians-Blacks Families: (Small?) Bridges To The Important Black W

Well religion when practised the wrong way can yield undoubtedly negative consequences, for example the Crusades during Christianity, or terrorism using Islam. I think though, with all these flaws in mind, Europe definitely possessed a better sense of their own national identity and culture, before the multiculturalism wave started destroying it all.

Again, I don't agree that it was multiculturalism but some political forces whose goals it to make people only think about sex, partying, and paying their taxes on time, rather than politics, country, culture, etc.

The element of 'imperialism' has existed in every country which has had power. In the end, all countries pursue their self interests, and being 'pro-some country' is a lot of times just based on economic benefit. Most Europeans don't know very well about Armenia or Armenians to start out with. More know about Armenians of course than Azerbaijanis (especially in countries such as France) but in all people just don't care when it comes to Armenia, Karabakh, or Azerbaijan, it's just the people who make money from these countries that genuinely care. Though as most European nations are like that, I tend to think that France remains the more pro-Armenian of the the rest.

I don't agree with this. Armenians are not imperialist by blood, Russians far less than Europeans and so are Chinese. Mostly European countries were the ones invading other countries, destroying many civilizations and stealing whatever they could to become rich. Also the Turkic nations have been doing this on a large scale.

Armenians are not like J3ws. We aren't connected just by some common religion, but by much more, a common culture, history, language, and now a country. We can't ever be like the J3ws in that matter because we just don't have the same attributes as them. Though, of course our Armenian Church has been instrumental in moulding and sustain our identity - one of the reasons I believe that in order to be Armenian, one must be Armenian Christian. We don't need to accept non-Armenians, instead we need to fortify our own Armenians, and save the almost assimilated Armenians in the West from total assimilation. THE WHITE GENOCIDE NEEDS TO BE STOPPED - IT IS A FORMIDABLE FORCE THAT IS DESTROYING OUR NATION.

The white genocide will only be stopped if we have a strong Armenia. If we had an own religion (not Christianity, as all the Armenian girls mary foreigners under the motto of "they are also Christian"), this would have also helped, but the things are the way they are. More than 95% of the American-Armenians are lost. We should focus on bringing Russian-Armenians back to Armenia, after we have solved all our problems in Armenia. The territory of Armenia today is too small to support a big population (maximum 4-5 million), hopefully one day this will change for the better.

[Mos]

Re: Inter Racial Armenians-Blacks Families: (Small?) Bridges To The Important Black W

I don't think they lost much of it's national "Christian?" character due to things related to multiculturalism. It's because of certain powers taking over the political field in Western European countries, their attitude against Christianity changed. Their Christian character was already flawed and disgusting (millions of innocent people got killed in the name of Christ, witch hunting was normal etc.), it is now only replaced by an equal version of a non-Christian character.

With or without immigrants, Europeans have never been pro-Armenian and they will never be, unless we have oil or can offer them something else to suck on. They are imperialist in nature, and choose the path of blood rather than justice, just as the Turks do.

I really don't understand why Armenians should care what happens in Europe. It's also a large exaggeration that immigrants are taking over Western-Europe, percentage wise they (immigrants) compare to nothing. And having read history, I know a day will come when all these unwanted foreigners will be deported or killed. Europeans have enough experience in genocides and mass killings, don't worry.

Still I would have preferred having such a strong culture/identity to attract non-Armenians to be Armenians (just like the j-ews attract non-j-ews or half-j-ews to become j-ews). I guess we are not mature, smart, nor strong enough to cope with that. I think we are too fanatic in a wrong way, which is one of the reasons of the high assimilation rate among Diaspora Armenians. Having an own religion would have surely helped (just like the j-ews have).

Well religion when practised the wrong way can yield undoubtedly negative consequences, for example the Crusades during Christianity, or terrorism using Islam. I think though, with all these flaws in mind, Europe definitely possessed a better sense of their own national identity and culture, before the multiculturalism wave started destroying it all.

The element of 'imperialism' has existed in every country which has had power. In the end, all countries pursue their self interests, and being 'pro-some country' is a lot of times just based on economic benefit. Most Europeans don't know very well about Armenia or Armenians to start out with. More know about Armenians of course than Azerbaijanis (especially in countries such as France) but in all people just don't care when it comes to Armenia, Karabakh, or Azerbaijan, it's just the people who make money from these countries that genuinely care. Though as most European nations are like that, I tend to think that France remains the more pro-Armenian of the the rest.

Europeans are not the only ones that have had genocides and mass killings. It's a world wide tragic instrument.

Armenians are not like J3ws. We aren't connected just by some common religion, but by much more, a common culture, history, language, and now a country. We can't ever be like the J3ws in that matter because we just don't have the same attributes as them. Though, of course our Armenian Church has been instrumental in moulding and sustain our identity - one of the reasons I believe that in order to be Armenian, one must be Armenian Christian. We don't need to accept non-Armenians, instead we need to fortify our own Armenians, and save the almost assimilated Armenians in the West from total assimilation. THE WHITE GENOCIDE NEEDS TO BE STOPPED - IT IS A FORMIDABLE FORCE THAT IS DESTROYING OUR NATION.

[Tigranakert]

Re: Inter Racial Armenians-Blacks Families: (Small?) Bridges To The Important Black W

Western Europe as a whole has lost much of its national Christian character due to the failure that has come about because of multiculturalism. Over time, the native folks will become minority, and you will have Turks/Arabs and other Muslims as the majority. That is why for guest workers we should stay away from blacks, muslims, and Turks (of course), and attract white Christian folks, especially from countries like Greece or Serbia - of course if it is absolutely needed.

I don't think they lost much of it's national "Christian?" character due to things related to multiculturalism. It's because of certain powers taking over the political field in Western European countries, their attitude against Christianity changed. Their Christian character was already flawed and disgusting (millions of innocent people got killed in the name of Christ, witch hunting was normal etc.), it is now only replaced by an equal version of a non-Christian character.

With or without immigrants, Europeans have never been pro-Armenian and they will never be, unless we have oil or can offer them something else to suck on. They are imperialist in nature, and choose the path of blood rather than justice, just as the Turks do.

I really don't understand why Armenians should care what happens in Europe. It's also a large exaggeration that immigrants are taking over Western-Europe, percentage wise they (immigrants) compare to nothing. And having read history, I know a day will come when all these unwanted foreigners will be deported or killed. Europeans have enough experience in genocides and mass killings, don't worry.

Still I would have preferred having such a strong culture/identity to attract non-Armenians to be Armenians (just like the j-ews attract non-j-ews or half-j-ews to become j-ews). I guess we are not mature, smart, nor strong enough to cope with that. I think we are too fanatic in a wrong way, which is one of the reasons of the high assimilation rate among Diaspora Armenians. Having an own religion would have surely helped (just like the j-ews have).

[Mos]

Re: Inter Racial Armenians-Blacks Families: (Small?) Bridges To The Important Black W

Armenians are worrying for nothing. For the foreseeable future, Armenia will not see an influx of (black, Arabian, Western) foreigners in Armenia. Those who have established themselves in Armenia, should assimilate and integrate as soon as possible and should not be discriminated upon. Armenian culture is not in danger in Armenia, it is in danger outside of Armenia, especially in Western countries where there is a "white genocide" going on now.

As for a multicultural society, it has been a big failure in Europe. This regards non-Western immigrants (Africans, Arabs, Turks), Western immigrants have integrated fully. The Republic of Armenia can learn lessons from this, if somewhere in the distant future we "need" guest workers, these should be attracted from (white) Christian countries like Serbia, Russia, Ukraine and Poland.

I agree that as of know, the biggest problem that our people are facing is the "White Genocide" in the diaspora, especially in Western countries. I think this is very well reflected in my quote in my signature, which I think should be spread.

Western Europe as a whole has lost much of its national Christian character due to the failure that has come about because of multiculturalism. Over time, the native folks will become minority, and you will have Turks/Arabs and other Muslims as the majority. That is why for guest workers we should stay away from blacks, muslims, and Turks (of course), and attract white Christian folks, especially from countries like Greece or Serbia - of course if it is absolutely needed.

[Tigranakert]

Re: Inter Racial Armenians-Blacks Families: (Small?) Bridges To The Important Black W

Armenians are worrying for nothing. For the foreseeable future, Armenia will not see an influx of (black, Arabian, Western) foreigners in Armenia. Those who have established themselves in Armenia, should assimilate and integrate as soon as possible and should not be discriminated upon. Armenian culture is not in danger in Armenia, it is in danger outside of Armenia, especially in Western countries where there is a "white genocide" going on now.

As for a multicultural society, it has been a big failure in Europe. This regards non-Western immigrants (Africans, Arabs, Turks), Western immigrants have integrated fully. The Republic of Armenia can learn lessons from this, if somewhere in the distant future we "need" guest workers, these should be attracted from (white) Christian countries like Serbia, Russia, Ukraine and Poland.

[Mos]

Re: Inter Racial Armenians-Blacks Families: (Small?) Bridges To The Important Black W

Nowhere does it say that those who created a culture are the only ones who are able to maintain it. If this was true culture would not exist. It is the ability to be passed down generations and introduced to and accepted by new groups of people that grows, spreads and maintains culture. Seeing things for what they are is not being brainwashed it is called being a realist. Finding a place to live for the Hamshens is hardly an issue in a depopulated state plus you have all that empty land in Kharabagh to. Perhaps instead of trying to convert them into chrystianity we should welcome them as they are "our brothers and sisters". As for the black guy Kanada proclaims is fitting in well with armenians i would ask you this, would you or do you know of other armenian families that would be willing to give their daughter to a black armenian? There was a example posted earlier in a article about a black guy who married a armenian and moved to armenia and how his life was being ruined by biggots there. Many here would open their arms if the immigrant was european or russian yet asiatic or black is forbidden hell even iranians are being herassed by posters here. Culture is meant to evolve it is not meant to be preserved like a fossile. Sharing our culture with others will give it the opportunity to grow and evolve. So long as we are racist and closed minded we cannot expect growth but will see nothing but dependence and decay. People who do not accept their own brothers and sisters because they were forced into living a different way a couple of generations ago are not going to be growing and evolving into anything good nor sustainable anytime soon. It is time people took their heads out of their rear quarters and said hello to the person standing next to them. I am not promoting multiculturalism but i am for accaptance of fellow man. If we are to preserve our state we are going to need to be tolorant and welcoming so that our nation will grow.

Our culture shouldn't be forced to evolve because of immigrants, esp be forced to evolve backwards as I doubt Africans will help bring in a "cultural renaissance" into Armenia. We can grow, but we don't need to bring our value down to blacks and other religions in order to achieve that. We have to grow as an Armenian nation, using the Armenians of the world to fortify our country and culture. We will destroy our state and national character by letting immigrants, especially from backward places with backward cultures, infiltrate our society. That is not growth that is a death sentence to our country - we should work hard to instead have Armenian immigrants come to Armenia - we need to stay unified.

As I've said before, with that in mind, we need to also work to prevent the Western assimilation and thus second "silent" Genocide of Armenians - of course promoted by the deadly ideals of multiculturalism. We need to spread this message, break the taboo, inform people, and prevent, what is termed, the "White Genocide".