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    What Artsakh means to me

    I was raised with the understanding that there is a USSR and all of it is Russia. I was mostly right. I was also raised with the understanding that almost all Armenians trace their roots to what is today Turkey. When I heard of an Armenian SSR (during perestroika, ect) it was pretty new to me.

    Like Monte Melkonian, I knew what family life was like, and they weren't political...simply, social (family, friends, relatives). I also knew what it was like to be an odar in an odar world (outsider). As the conflict developed, I began to read the news (Armenian newspapers, and also began to learn to read in Armenian at the same time) and I felt the call.

    Since 1993, I've learned much more about Armenian history during the Soviet years and much more about Artsakh. To me, it is like the reclaimed lands from despair, horrors, and history. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_re...ating_new_land ) It was bought with the blood of Beirutsis, Americahayer, Barsgahayer, Hayastancis, Rusahayer, and all other Hayer...who came back to a homeland from exile.

    So when I hear people talk about Artsakh being negotiated with, US aspirations for Azerbaijan, Russian interests, or even 'autonomy' within Azerbaijan, I see something horrible. Men GAVE UP PERFECTLY WELL and HEALTHY LIVES...literally, DIED, so we can live a few more days, months, and thank God (and them) years free from Turkish overlords.

    Let's keep this in mind, and remind 'odars' about what is OURS. The Azeris chose to persecute its Armenian citizens and they declared independence (legally did so within the Soviet constitution by the way as an autonomous republic, which no one mentions). Those of us with no ties to Yerevan, but only the Genocide, should have a right to Nakhitchevan. The Kurds can deal with Turkiye.

    Just had to get that off my chest. Thanks for reading
    kurtçul kangal
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    Re: What Artsakh means to me

    Artsakh is very beautiful. Have you been there?
    For the first time in more than 600 years, Armenia is free and independent, and we are therefore obligated
    to place our national interests ahead of our personal gains or aspirations.



    http://www.armenianhighland.com/main.html

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    • #3
      Re: What Artsakh means to me

      Thank you for inspiring words Alpha. Indeed, so much truth to what you said, it still bothers me a great deal that our veterans of the Artsakh Liberation War are not properly honored and even cared for. Not to mention that their priceless blood shed for the priceless Armenian land should never be bartered for.

      Armenian people deserve better, not what we have now. Deep down almost every single Armenian wants to see social justice in our Homeland and an unbreakable bond with every single community of the diaspora.

      We still have a very long way to go to build this Armenian World.

      Last edited by Catharsis; 10-20-2009, 10:51 PM.

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        Re: What Artsakh means to me

        Originally posted by Catharsis View Post
        Thank you for inspiring words Alpha. Indeed, so much truth to what you said, it still bothers me a great deal that our veterans of the Artsakh Liberation War are not properly honored and even cared for. Not to mention that their priceless blood shed for the priceless Armenian land should never be bartered for.

        Armenian people deserve better, not what we have now. Deep down almost every single Armenian wants to see social justice in our Homeland and an unbreakable bond with every single community of the diaspora.

        We still have a very long way to go to build this Armenian World.


        It is quite sad that Armenian veterans of the Artsakh War are not better looked out for. The same is true with vietnam veterans in the u.s. I believe that change in Armenia will come from those working within the country to change things rather than those outside.
        For the first time in more than 600 years, Armenia is free and independent, and we are therefore obligated
        to place our national interests ahead of our personal gains or aspirations.



        http://www.armenianhighland.com/main.html

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          Re: What Artsakh means to me

          Originally posted by Armanen View Post
          It is quite sad that Armenian veterans of the Artsakh War are not better looked out for. The same is true with vietnam veterans in the u.s.
          Yes.

          I believe that change in Armenia will come from those working within the country to change things rather than those outside.
          Yes, but ultimately both are needed as a symbiosis since the Homeland cannot survive without the Diaspora and the Diaspora cannot survive without the Homeland. Already the All-Armenian Fund has begun the campaign, especially in the Diasporan communities, to garner support for rebuilding the historic-cultural city of Shushi. This year's telethon fund raiser that will be held on November 26, 2009 is entitled - Our Shushi. Several of the programs of the All-Armenian Fund do include endeavors that will work to alleviate the plight of the Artsakh War veterans (especially disabled veterans). All of 2010 has been declared as the Year of Shushi by the Armenia Fund.

          Last edited by Catharsis; 10-21-2009, 12:57 AM.

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            Re: What Artsakh means to me

            Originally posted by Catharsis View Post
            Yes.



            Yes, but ultimately both are needed as a symbiosis since the Homeland cannot survive without the Diaspora and the Diaspora cannot survive without the Homeland. Already the All-Armenian Fund has begun the campaign, especially in the Diasporan communities, to garner support for rebuilding the historic-cultural city of Shushi. This year's telethon fund raiser that will be held on November 26, 2009 is entitled - Our Shushi. Several of the programs of the All-Armenian Fund do include endeavors that will work to alleviate the plight of the Artsakh War veterans (especially disabled veterans). All of 2010 has been declared as the Year of Shushi by the Armenia Fund.

            I agree, it should be more of a give and take relationship with Armenia and the Diaspora. I am excited about this years Telethon theme, Shushi is a beautiful and important Armenian city, it needs to once again become the Pearl of the Caucasus.
            For the first time in more than 600 years, Armenia is free and independent, and we are therefore obligated
            to place our national interests ahead of our personal gains or aspirations.



            http://www.armenianhighland.com/main.html

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            • #7
              Re: What Artsakh means to me

              from himnadram.org

              "Proceeds from Telethon 2008 will benefit core infrastructure projects in Shushi town, Artsakh, bringing profound change where it is needed most."

              Good deal. I wish I could dedicate a year or two through some sort of Armenian Peace Corps type deal. Speaking of which, regarding Veterans, US Vietnam Vets get strong points for state and federal jobs. I would hope that Hayastan has some sort of preferential treatment for veterans as well (for government jobs).
              kurtçul kangal

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                Re: What Artsakh means to me

                Originally posted by AlphaPapa View Post
                from himnadram.org

                "Proceeds from Telethon 2008 will benefit core infrastructure projects in Shushi town, Artsakh, bringing profound change where it is needed most."

                Good deal. I wish I could dedicate a year or two through some sort of Armenian Peace Corps type deal. Speaking of which, regarding Veterans, US Vietnam Vets get strong points for state and federal jobs. I would hope that Hayastan has some sort of preferential treatment for veterans as well (for government jobs).
                Here you go:

                Armenian Volunteer Corps - Come Move Mountains
                http://www.armenianvolunteer.org/
                Armenian Volunteer Corps is a trusted organization based in Armenia. We host volunteers and interns from all over the world. Application is FREE.
                For the first time in more than 600 years, Armenia is free and independent, and we are therefore obligated
                to place our national interests ahead of our personal gains or aspirations.



                http://www.armenianhighland.com/main.html

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                • #9
                  Re: What Artsakh means to me

                  If you want to help Armenia this corps is a great thing, maybe I'll join it when I'm done with m studies. But Alpha if you can some money go an invest in the economy. We need more money in the economy so that it can grow.

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                    Re: What Artsakh means to me

                    Originally posted by AlphaPapa View Post
                    from himnadram.org

                    "Proceeds from Telethon 2008 will benefit core infrastructure projects in Shushi town, Artsakh, bringing profound change where it is needed most."
                    There is no point in repairing the roof while allowing the foundations to crumble. Shushi is not the foundations.
                    Plenipotentiary meow!

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