Armenia stands today because of Iran?

[Mos]

Re: Armenia stands today because of Iran?

we better try to increase our population rather than cry about "Outlanders" as i said Tehran have more citizens than whole armenia and there are like 700,000 armenians in iran.but they dont care cause there is no way that armenians can match iranian population in iran. we must increase our population so we dont need to worry about these things

but i dont say we should'nt worry about our culture.we must protect it.and even force our culture in iran
plus we have a real close culture with iran the only big difference is the religion.food and falling in love and many things are same as it is in Armenia

and if you gonna count historical battles between armenians and iranians then you must also count historical RELATIONS.the relation between koroush the great and Tigran the great(B.C years).the parthian empire(B.C name of persian empire) helped greater armenia to beat all of its enemys and create an empire in caucasus.thus we also had a shared religion named "mihr" for many years.the wars between armenians and persians stared from changing our religion to christinanity and eventually theirs to islam.
all that i say is we must increase our population rather than worry about iranians who migrate to armenia

Edit:and i found out something interesting.you know iran had an Male Lion in their flag before the islamic republic and the lion in armenia's coat of arms is female.Persrian empire and Greater armenia were King and Queen in BC years

Look we have many differences from the Persians. If it wasn't for the Genocide Armenians wouldn't live there. If Armenians had a choice they would have lived in more developed places like France.

You want to increase Armenian population with Persians? Are you out of your mind? Look I've had a fair amount of contact with Persians in Yerevan, they aren't very pleasant people, all they look for is fun and making trouble. And it's very easy to tell which people are Persian and which aren't, I'll tell you that.

[Parskahay]

Re: Armenia stands today because of Iran?

we better try to increase our population rather than cry about "Outlanders" as i said Tehran have more citizens than whole armenia and there are like 700,000 armenians in iran.but they dont care cause there is no way that armenians can match iranian population in iran. we must increase our population so we dont need to worry about these things

but i dont say we should'nt worry about our culture.we must protect it.and even force our culture in iran
plus we have a real close culture with iran the only big difference is the religion.food and falling in love and many things are same as it is in Armenia

and if you gonna count historical battles between armenians and iranians then you must also count historical RELATIONS.the relation between koroush the great and Tigran the great(B.C years).the parthian empire(B.C name of persian empire) helped greater armenia to beat all of its enemys and create an empire in caucasus.thus we also had a shared religion named "mihr" for many years.the wars between armenians and persians stared from changing our religion to christinanity and eventually theirs to islam.
all that i say is we must increase our population rather than worry about iranians who migrate to armenia

Edit:and i found out something interesting.you know iran had an Male Lion in their flag before the islamic republic and the lion in armenia's coat of arms is female.Persrian empire and Greater armenia were King and Queen in BC years

[Haykakan]

Re: Armenia stands today because of Iran?

Iranians in Armenia have done much more harm than good. What do you want a Muslim yerevan filled with all Persians and Arabs?? Why don't they go to Georgia? They don't because Georgians actually have some decency and don't want their country overrun by those hooligans.

Georgia is overrun by turcks instead. Please dont bring up Georgia as a good example for anything because they simply dont deserve it.

[Mos]

Re: Armenia stands today because of Iran?

Normal and THE ONLY neighbor we have beside poor georgia which needs help itself and cannot help us

btw you lived in iran and you know how they live there.but of course this cant be an excuse for what they are doing in armenia(things you said tigrankert jan)but its also normal.everyone who live in those Situtations do these things when they are free of their governments grasp

my family is in iran but i study in cavendish University of Armenia.there are many iranians here atm.which really boost our economy.everything in world have pros and cons.presence of iranians in armenia is not an exception

Iranians in Armenia have done much more harm than good. What do you want a Muslim yerevan filled with all Persians and Arabs?? Why don't they go to Georgia? They don't because Georgians actually have some decency and don't want their country overrun by those hooligans.

[Parskahay]

Re: Armenia stands today because of Iran?

Please don't misunderstand me (or Mos). Ofcourse, I too am happy that we have a normal neighbour, who invests in our economy, with whom we have multiple partnerships in different fields.

Normal and THE ONLY neighbor we have beside poor georgia which needs help itself and cannot help us

btw you lived in iran and you know how they live there.but of course this cant be an excuse for what they are doing in armenia(things you said tigrankert jan)but its also normal.everyone who live in those Situtations do these things when they are free of their governments grasp

my family is in iran but i study in cavendish University of Armenia.there are many iranians here atm.which really boost our economy.everything in world have pros and cons.presence of iranians in armenia is not an exception

[Mos]

Re: Armenia stands today because of Iran?

From Iranians who marry naive Armenian girls just to have sex with, even having a second wife in Iran, also demanding the girls to wear a veil.

Yeah, that's disgusting those people should be punished and kicked out of the country.

[gegev]

Re: Armenia stands today because of Iran?

I'm not marking Persians as enemy. They are good economic partner, but we shouldn't kiss their feet just because they give us some gas. They will turn against us if it is advantageous to them in a heartbeat, don't be a harif!.

One of reasons Turks killed us is because we became to comfortable with them and didn't see it coming. We always have to be careful with whom we have "good" relationship, especially with muslim nation.

The reasonable people are keeping the historic events in their mind and when the economic relations between the countries are mutually profitable, and there is no any reasonable threat from their side, doesn’t speak up about it, as opposed to naive/harif. And when the relations become hostile: would behave adequately.

[Tigranakert]

Re: Armenia stands today because of Iran?

Please don't misunderstand me (or Mos). Ofcourse, I too am happy that we have a normal neighbour, who invests in our economy, with whom we have multiple partnerships in different fields.

We must strengthen our ties with Iran, be it economic or military. But that does not mean we can close our eyes and trust them. They have done positive, aswell as negative things during the Artsakh war, and ofcourse gave a piece of land to Turkey to have a common border with Nachichevan.

What I am saying is that our cultures were, are and will remain different. We must not let them influence our culture, because in my opinion it is poisonous. As I have mentioned before, the Armenians in Iran have become Iranians. We have kept our Armenian identity strong for hundreds of years, but the last 10-20 years we have ruined everything. Youth mixing with Iranians, using drugs, having sex with boys. At an ''Armenian'' wedding, 80% of the songs today are Iranian, where we Parskahayer dance like gays.

We must promote Iranian tourists (families, with wife, children), who come to Armenia to experience our culture. We must not attract sex(or drug)-tourists. I have had a lot of bad experience with Iranians in Armenia the last couple of years, showing no respect for our culture or Armenia. Whereas we Armenians have shown enormous respect towards their country, they do not show respect for us.

From an Iranian who is drunk, breaking all the beautiful trees and plants in Yerevan because he thinks he can do everything he wants in Armenia (he got his ass kicked by the way).

From a group of young Iranians who rented a hotel, to see the next morning they xxxxted and pissed on the floor.

From a group of Iranians who at the restaurant are yelling and talking about sex and prostitutes when you are trying to eat a meal with your family.

From Iranians who marry naive Armenian girls just to have sex with, even having a second wife in Iran, also demanding the girls to wear a veil.

From Iranians (as wel as assimilated Parskahayer) who are bringing opium and other kinds of drugs into Armenia, poisining our culture.

There are a lot of examples of good Iranians too, but I do not like it when people treat them like they are blessed people. No, they are just ''oke''.

[Mos]

Re: Armenia stands today because of Iran?

Currently Iran isn't our enemy, it is a very good economic partner today. Why do you consider the kind of relationship: as establishing brotherhood with them? They are not our relatives/brothers, but I/we appreciate their economic support which is mutually profitable for us both. I’m very satisfied with current Iran-Armenia economic partnership and I appreciate it very much. Here we are not talking about our problems in past, we have more devastating interaction with Turks, Aeries: please fight only against them, if you like.

What’s the point of your current hostile attitude to our neighbor, which is doing most significant contributions in our economy? Do you want to disrupt the economic partnership by talking about our conflicts in past?
Don’t you have hostile Turkey, Azerbaijan to fight with or you want Armenia to declare war against the whole world? What’s the reason of your hostility? Multiplying enemies?

I'm not marking Persians as enemy. They are good economic partner, but we shouldn't kiss their feet just because they give us some gas. They will turn against us if it is advantageous to them in a heartbeat, don't be a harif!.

One of reasons Turks killed us is because we became to comfortable with them and didn't see it coming. We always have to be careful with whom we have "good" relationship, especially with muslim nation.

[gegev]

Re: Armenia stands today because of Iran?

Why do you love Iranians so much?? Man, don't you understand they don't really give a xxxx about us, if they need to they'll use us or sell us at any given moment. Stop being so naive. Persians have done enough harm throughout history to us, just because they now gives us some gas doesn't mean we should go and kiss their feet. It is just ridiculous.

Currently Iran isn't our enemy, it is a very good economic partner today. Why do you consider the kind of relationship: as establishing brotherhood with them? They are not our relatives/brothers, but I/we appreciate their economic support which is mutually profitable for us both. I’m very satisfied with current Iran-Armenia economic partnership and I appreciate it very much. Here we are not talking about our problems in past, we have more devastating interaction with Turks, Aeries: please fight only against them, if you like.

What’s the point of your current hostile attitude to our neighbor, which is doing most significant contributions in our economy? Do you want to disrupt the economic partnership by talking about our conflicts in past?
Don’t you have hostile Turkey, Azerbaijan to fight with or you want Armenia to declare war against the whole world? What’s the reason of your hostility? Multiplying enemies?