I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

[Haykakan]

Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

Mos you have a lot of growing to do befor you can teach me anything. Being against Islam does not make one automaticaly a zionist, some of my remarks are directed to the other members who were spewing zionist propaganada and not you. Nations do indeed oporate in self interest and i say nothing different in this regard. Iran and Armenia share interests thus they act like friends for now and this can change at anytime depending on world events. I never proclaimed anyone to be "my brother". A sure sighn that a person has lost the argument is when that person (you) takes the words of the one he is arguing against (me) and twists them around to make it seem like you have some point but in reality your just saying that i said things which i never did (Why is it so black and white for you? Being against Islam, automatically makes you a zionist?). Like where do i make such a statement? Yeh zionists are anti islam but they are not the only ones who are anti islam thus being against islam does not make you necesseraly into a zionist but zionist are indeed anti islam non the less. Zionists want to make islam look as bad as possible so that their own zionist evile deeds dont look so bad. They label palastinians as people who are unable to govern themselves and live in peace (even when palastinians did this for hundreds of years) so they can justify zionist rule over them. I hate islam, judaism, chrystianity... all religions caus they are all crap used to divide humanity and you are a prime example of this. Islam is no more evile then judaism or chrystiaity. All three of these religions are tainted with more innocent blood then anyone can imagine.From the spanish inquisition to the murderous turcks to the hypocritic zionists(and their perverted form of judaism), they all use religion in the same way to dehumanize other people and justify their slaughter. I remember you in your ignorance proposing a chrystian theocracy in Armenia not long ago thinking it was going to solve Armenias problems somehow. You and your stupid friends were trying to drive Iranian tourists from Armenia not that long ago (probably still are) because of your dumb religious and racist misconseptions. This kind of backwardness is exactly what hurts our nation more then any enemy ever could. The real trouble is that even when people explain to you why this is wrong and how it hurts your country and people-you dont listen, you dont learn, you just continue spewing and doing the same crap that is hurting your country and people. Who knows maybe one day even you might come to your sences-young people change a lot once they are educated and maybe there is still hope for you. Even if you do not get educated, just look at things in a rational way and more often then not you will come to the correct conclusions but you will need to take off your anti muslim/iranian... glasses to do it.

[Mos]

Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

The way religion forms a dividing barrier among people is very evident here and is exactly why i hate all religions. Some here are so brainwashed that they will not entertain the possibility of friendship with anyone who is muslim but the funny thing is it is ok to befriend a zionist in their mind. What makes it even more of a lunacy is that some here will take sides with the very people (zionists) who have been and still are trying to deny us justice and are actively supporting our mortal enemies. Yeh i hate religion and i sure as hell do not like theocracies like Iran nor would i like a chrystian theocracy nor a zionist one but facts remain facts-it was the muslim nations that took in our refugees after the genocide. It was in these muslim countries that the Armenian diaspora prospered and flurished. It was a muslim country (Iran) that allowed Armenia to survive during the war. When the chrystian georgians cut off gas supplies to our country it was the Iranians that brought in gas. Instead of making conclusions using the dim wittted corners of your minds try to look at the reality that is playing out in front of your eyes instead. Russia is our only hope and Iran is the only thing that comes close to a friend for Armenia when it comes to international politics while isreal has never done a single thing for Hayastan but has worked and still does work against our country and people. These are the facts-not some delusional comments.

This is thing I don't understand. Why is it so black and white for you? Being against Islam, automatically makes you a zionist?

I don't take side of Zionists and Israel either, and condemn Israel heavily for their support to Azerbaijan.

One thing people have to understand here is that we have very few real friends. And trying to fake that a certain group is our friends is idiotic (e.g. muslims). You have to realise that no country is going to be friends with armenia because they like us or respect us, only reason is because they want to use us for their own gain. Iran, for example, as much as you want to proclaim they are your brothers, in the end of the day they are just using us, and if they had to make a choice based on ideology, society, or religion, they would chose Azerbaijan or Turkey any day. People here should rid themselves of that childish mindset that certain countries or people like Armenians. To put in the plain terms, the world doesn't give a sh*t about Armenia or Armenians. And sooner you realise this, the sooner you will realise that "friends" is just an empty term....

[KanadaHye]

Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

Well, anyone else find it odd that there is a quarter for all three major religions but Armenians have their own quarter in the holy land? We must be more special than we give ourselves credit for

[Eddo211]

Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

Islam by itself is inherently anti-Christian Armenian..........this doesn’t mean though Muslim countries or their people are all against Armenians, as we know Armenians do good in Muslim countries and many are patriots of their host country.

I personally have strong feelings about Iran and Iranians (but hate the Mullah’s regime) and they don’t buy into Turkish and Azeri bulldust and how they support Armenia, however when it really comes down to picking between a "blood drinking Jesus worshiper" to a brother Muslim Turk we loose most of the time especially now that good relations with Turkey is in their national interest and that they have been fooled to think Turkey really cares for Palestinians and can be a partner against Israel.

I have nothing against Islam, I do respect it as a major religion…….however I don’t trust Islam, it can go militant overnight on you.

[Haykakan]

Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

The way religion forms a dividing barrier among people is very evident here and is exactly why i hate all religions. Some here are so brainwashed that they will not entertain the possibility of friendship with anyone who is muslim but the funny thing is it is ok to befriend a zionist in their mind. What makes it even more of a lunacy is that some here will take sides with the very people (zionists) who have been and still are trying to deny us justice and are actively supporting our mortal enemies. Yeh i hate religion and i sure as hell do not like theocracies like Iran nor would i like a chrystian theocracy nor a zionist one but facts remain facts-it was the muslim nations that took in our refugees after the genocide. It was in these muslim countries that the Armenian diaspora prospered and flurished. It was a muslim country (Iran) that allowed Armenia to survive during the war. When the chrystian georgians cut off gas supplies to our country it was the Iranians that brought in gas. Instead of making conclusions using the dim wittted corners of your minds try to look at the reality that is playing out in front of your eyes instead. Russia is our only hope and Iran is the only thing that comes close to a friend for Armenia when it comes to international politics while isreal has never done a single thing for Hayastan but has worked and still does work against our country and people. These are the facts-not some delusional comments.

[KanadaHye]

Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

Elaborate.

Israel is selling weapons to Azerbaijan.

Sanctions on Iran are making things even harder on Armenia since the two economies and intermingled.

Israel had already taken control of Georgia until Russia put a stop to their plans. Something about a 10th century Empire called Khazaria. If you google Khazaria, you'll see that it's right where Georgia is today. Although today, this was more of Israel wanting to surround Russia. Israel lost this battle since Russia protects the minority populations like the Abkhazians or the Ossetians since it gives them a buffer. If it weren't for the Israeli influence in Georgia, Armenia could have better relations with Georgia and more reliable access to the sea. One of Armenia's biggest problems is that it's land locked. How does it make sense that Georgia supports Azerbaijan over Armenia?

Georgians have sympathized with Azerbaijan's position in the conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan over the ethnic Armenian enclave of Nagorno-Karabakh because of similarities to Georgia's internal problems with Abkhazia and South Ossetia. Both countries cite the principle of "inviolability of state borders" in defending national interests against claims by ethnic minorities.

Those are just a couple things that Israel has done to make things harder for Armenia, I'm sure we can come up with more.

This is why I say that Israel needs to be broken/weakened in order to diminish it's negative influence on Armenia.

Oh, here's a video about Armenians in Jerusalem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lxm7yWgZiJM

[gunther]

Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

I hate Islam. It's because of that religion that 1.5 million of our people died....and straight from the Qoran it is said to kill the "infidels", anybody not believing in their Allah. All the Ottomans, Kurds were doing was following their religion.

Exactly right. Let me just quote the Quran for the skeptics and all the other muslim-loving traitors who call themselves "Armenian".


Qur'an (5:51) - "O you who believe! do not take the xxxs and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people."

[Mos]

Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

I hate Islam. It's because of that religion that 1.5 million of our people died....and straight from the Qoran it is said to kill the "infidels", anybody not believing in their Allah. All the Ottomans, Kurds were doing was following their religion.

[Davo88]

Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

Mos, what Tigranakert was talking about is the French administration in Cilicia after the Armenian genocide. At that time, Western powers carved up Turkey and more than 170,000 Armenians were repatriated to Cilicia. The French ended up ceding Cilicia to Turkey in order to gain their favor...

I CAN NOT BELIEVE YOU ARE SAYING THIS. Thank you for showing your lack of knowledge, IT WAS THE MARONITES (CHRISTIANS) WHO WERE DISCRIMINATING THE ARMENIANS, NOT THE MUSLIMS. THE PALESTENIANS SUPPORTED THE ARMENIANS DURING THE WAR. It were the Maronites who were causing the problems for Armenians, I have a lot of friends from Lebanon and the problem was not the Palestinians. The level of this forum is not what is used to be...

Well said. Armenians had to face a major Maronite Christian militia during most of the 1975-1990 civil war just because we wanted to remain neutral. Christians there are still divided between pro-Syrian and anti-Syrian camps.

[Muhaha]

Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

Yeah.... try reading more and watching less Zionist propaganda.

Yeah, if somebody disagrees with you, they MUST be misinformed and brainwashed. Btw, have you considered the possibility that wherever you're getting your information from is propaganda from the other side? I guess that's impossible though, for a man of your exceptional intelligence.

Once Israel is broken and the Palestinians are treated justly, Armenia will flourish.

Elaborate.