I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

[gunther]

Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

because no news is good news. armenians in jerusalem have no problems with anyone and nobody has a problem with them. they consider themselves loyal israeli citizens.

btw, it is only a matter of brief time before Israel officially recognizes the Armenian Genocide.

[Davo88]

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Actually, Israel one of the biggest threats to Armenia and has a more barbaric and genocidal regime than Azerbaijan. A people who know what genocide is, the horror, openly support Turkey against the recognition of the Armenian genocide. That is lower than an animal, they have no honour, and are the same as nazi Germany.

What you forgot is the following:
Certain Zionists or xxxs have come up with the argument that the Holocaust is "unique" which is one of the main reasons why they continue supporting the Armenian genocide deniers. Though I do not know if this is simply an "excuse" to support the Turks in this issue. Where are these Zionists now that they see the true face of Turkey?

If the xxxs think that they have a monopoly in suffering they are mistaken, especially considering the fact that contrarily to their Holocaust:

-Armenians were taken away from their historical homeland after living there for 3000 years whereas the xxxs, after the Holocaust, got their homeland where they were only a small minority for 2000 years.
-1.5 million were killed in such a smaller area (Western Armenia) than 6 million (in Europe).
-Armenians are still waiting for proper retribution.
etc. etc...

[Haykakan]

Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

I hope Muhaha has forged a better understanding of what Isreal and zionism really are by participating in this forum. Tigran is right in what he writes here, i dought i could have put it any better myself. The false assumption that the palastine-isreal conflict is the palastinian's fault is utter bull, it is the misinformation zionists have been spreading for a long time. Tigran also makes a very important point which is overlooked by many people including some here that being anti zionist is not the same as being anti hrya (xxx). There are many hryas who stand up for the truth and they need to be respecte for it because it is very hard to do when by far most of your people are racist hypocrits. You dont need to be a xxx to be a zionist, Pat Robertson of the 700 club is definetly a zionist but heads a chrystian movement. And you dont need to be a zionist to be a hrya, Dr Finklestien is a xxx but antizionist. The media of the west has been working hard to portray the zionists as the good and the arabs as the bad because the media is owned and operated by zionists. When you get information you need to consider the source of this information when it comes to deciding on how valid that info is. Obviously the zionist owners are not gona tell you the whole story and will paint a one sided picture for you to see and they make sure that any other voices telling the story of the other side is crushed usually befor and sometimes after it gets printed, reported, published...It would be easy to look at the situation Armenia and isreal are in and say that both countries have a lot in common and indeed they do have some things in common like their ability to survive under foreighn powers and retain their identity but when it comes to todays situation it is the isrealis doing the opressing and the armenians being oppressed. Unlike some other armenians i have no wish for Armenia to emulate Isreal. Armenia fights its wars with those who have killed, raped and opressed her while isreal fights its wars with the people who opened their arms to her and found themselves being stabbed in the back. There are important fundimental differences between the two scenerious but somehow they get obscured when it is in isreals interest to obscure them. Seeking and finding the truth in a world full of bs is hard work and most people dont care to do it and accept the bs on the regular news. When i was in collage i had a Armenian professor in U of M, his name was Dr Papazian. He taught us history but more importantly he taught us to THINK! Good luck finding a teacher like this today, such a teacher will probably lose his/her job now like DR Fincklstein lost his tenure track position because he taught the truth. I repected the some of the institutions of higher learning in the USA because unlike the media many taught the truth but has been changing fore some time now. A good way to telll that a civilization is declining is when it starts lying to itself and the zionists built everything they believe in on lies. To make this post relavent to the subject i will say that the reason why you do not hear about the Armenians or any of the other chrystians in Jerusalem is because they got tired of living under the hypocracy that is Isreal.

[Tigranakert]

Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

Could you imagine Armenia openly denying the xxxish Holocaust to have good relations with Iran?

I am lucky we are a country with honour.

[Tigranakert]

Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

They're not surrounded by the people that committed the Holocaust, but they are surrounded by new enemies who wouldn't flinch at committing a second one. I agree Armenia's situation is way worse. Turkey and Azerbaijan not only wish for Armenia/Armenians to be gone, but they're actually making progress towards that goal. ROA citizens are some of unluckiest people on the planet. Landlocked, blockaded, low in numbers, surrounded by a massive hoard of enemies, on top of that a lot of nations they'd expect to be neutral are helping our enemies, such as Israel with it's warm relations with Azerbaijan and I'm sure they'll have warm relations with Turkey again pretty soon.

Yes the Palestinians had their land taken away, but comparing their situation to Armenia and Armenians is ridiculous. Armenians have almost no land. Arabs have land that stretches from one continent to another. The survival of Arab culture, language, and people isn't in danger. For Armenians and for Israelis, it is. If Armenia ceases to exist, there's no other place to carry on it's people, it's language, it's culture, and it's history. We'd be done. Same goes for Israel.

Too bad these two groups who should be natural allys aren't.

You are wrongly informed and I suggest you to read history books. First of all, until 100 years ago, xxxs lived peacefully next to the Palestinians. It were the Palestenians who opened their arms and doors to the xxxish people to come and settle in THEIR country, not knowing what kind of genocidal regime would be formed in the future.

Also, the Palestenians have nowhere to go, you can not say they are Arabians and other Arabic countries have enough land, Palestina is their country and nowhere else.

Actually, Israel one of the biggest threats to Armenia and has a more barbaric and genocidal regime than Azerbaijan. A people who know what genocide is, the horror, openly support Turkey against the recognition of the Armenian genocide. That is lower than an animal, they have no honour, and are the same as nazi Germany.

It does not stop here, they even support Azerbaijan with weapons and by their weapons and support THOUSANDS of Armenians have died. As this is not enough, they also threat Armenians in Israel, the Armenian Church has it very hard under Israeli hands (whereas Palestinians treat us well).

Israel is by far the most hypocratic nation on the world with no honour what so ever, they are also one of the biggest anti-Armenian countries in the world (even the muslim countries are neutral or pro-Armenian).

Turkey, Israel, Azerbaijan and Pakistan are the axis of evil for Armenia. Again, this has nothing to do with indivual Israelis (there are a lot good ones), but the policy of the country is just barbaric.

PS. If Israel had not supported Turkey from the start against the Armenian genocide recognition and everything else, they could have stayed neutral. As Turkey has other ''good'' relations with countries who are neutral, but Israel openly chose to support Turkey so they could have the right to talk about the one and real genocide, the genocide of the xxxs, as they feel themselves superior than other peoples. They openly mention that genocide (holocaust) only happened to the xxxs, they are who suffered the most in the world, no-one else. They are the only one who is important and no-one else can talk about another genocide or holocaust.

[KanadaHye]

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Yes the Palestinians had their land taken away, but comparing their situation to Armenia and Armenians is ridiculous. Armenians have almost no land. Arabs have land that stretches from one continent to another. The survival of Arab culture, language, and people isn't in danger. For Armenians and for Israelis, it is. If Armenia ceases to exist, there's no other place to carry on it's people, it's language, it's culture, and it's history. We'd be done. Same goes for Israel.

Too bad these two groups who should be natural allys aren't.

Saying Palestinians are Arabs is like saying Armenians are Christians.... and there are lots of Christian land, so why don't Armenians go there.... which is exactly why we all have ended up where we did.

[Muhaha]

Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

Armenia's situation is far worse in the sense that Turkey is also the country that perpetrated the Armenian genocide, whereas the Holocaust was not perpetrated by the Arabs.

They're not surrounded by the people that committed the Holocaust, but they are surrounded by new enemies who wouldn't flinch at committing a second one. I agree Armenia's situation is way worse. Turkey and Azerbaijan not only wish for Armenia/Armenians to be gone, but they're actually making progress towards that goal. ROA citizens are some of unluckiest people on the planet. Landlocked, blockaded, low in numbers, surrounded by a massive hoard of enemies, on top of that a lot of nations they'd expect to be neutral are helping our enemies, such as Israel with it's warm relations with Azerbaijan and I'm sure they'll have warm relations with Turkey again pretty soon.

I see a parallel between the Armenians and the Palestinians in the sense that both are oppressed nations of the Middle-East that had their lands taken away.

Yes the Palestinians had their land taken away, but comparing their situation to Armenia and Armenians is ridiculous. Armenians have almost no land. Arabs have land that stretches from one continent to another. The survival of Arab culture, language, and people isn't in danger. For Armenians and for Israelis, it is. If Armenia ceases to exist, there's no other place to carry on it's people, it's language, it's culture, and it's history. We'd be done. Same goes for Israel.

Too bad these two groups who should be natural allys aren't.

[Davo88]

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I can't help but draw a parallel between Israel and Armenia. We've only got Two-Three Million Armenians living on a tiny fraction of land surrounded by Seventy Million Turks and Twelve Millions Azeris. Are you telling me Armenia shouldn't be hostile and should care about the "Human Rights" of those who despise us and would slaughter us in a second if they could?

Armenia's situation is far worse in the sense that Turkey is also the country that perpetrated the Armenian genocide, whereas the Holocaust was not perpetrated by the Arabs.

I see a parallel between the Armenians and the Palestinians in the sense that both are oppressed nations of the Middle-East that had their lands taken away.

[KanadaHye]

Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

No problem, I hope I've answered your question.

[Muhaha]

Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

BTW, congratulations on ruining this thread Kanada.