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  • #51
    Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

    So why was the State of Israel created? Why was there a need to create a state on populated land? Let's have a quick look at the history...

    Palestine was part of a League of Nations mandated area after the defeat of the Ottoman Empire in World War I. The Zionists of Europe, having failed to take over defeated areas in Africa, saw an opportunity and backed by President Wilson, himself backed by J3wish money, ignored the mandate and took over. Many wealthy J3ws left their land in Africa to migrate to the new "promise land". There was a huge population exchange between Arabs and J3ws which ended up costing both parties tons of money. Thirty years later after they declared the State of Israel.

    The moral of the story: You don't need morality if you have powerful friends. Oh yeah... forgot to mention that somehow Armenians got really screwed during this whole fiasco.

    And they all lived miserably ever after. The end.
    "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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    • #52
      Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

      Originally posted by londontsi View Post
      http://www.youtube.com/user/drdduke
      are you kidding me? why are you posting the channel of a disgusting white supremacist, neo-Nazi and former KKK leader???

      @Azar, thanks for the dose of Palestinian propaganda....I'm sure the Palestinian side does nothing wrong....
      Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
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      • #53
        Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

        Originally posted by Mos View Post
        are you kidding me? why are you posting the channel of a disgusting white supremacist, neo-Nazi and former KKK leader???
        Besides labeling the guy, do you think his message is wrong?

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        • #54
          Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

          Originally posted by Mos View Post
          thanks for the dose of Palestinian propaganda
          I'm sure the IDF soldier wearing a shirt promoting murdering an innocent baby inside a mothers womb was "Palestinian propaganda".

          Originally posted by Mos View Post
          I'm sure the Palestinian side does nothing wrong....
          They do alot of things wrong, what's your point? Should we silence ourselves about Israel's crimes because Palestine may be equally as bad?

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          • #55
            Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

            Originally posted by Yedtarts View Post
            Besides labeling the guy, do you think his message is wrong?
            Labelling the guy? He's a neo-Nazi how can you even give him the credit of listening to him? Yes I think his whole Fascist and racist ideology is wrong, the only people that support him are the backwards farmers of the American deep south. You want to associate yourself with them go ahead...

            I'm sure the IDF soldier wearing a shirt promoting murdering an innocent baby inside a mothers womb was "Palestinian propaganda".
            It's a disgusting shirt, but you can find plenty of similar propaganda against the West/Israel among Palestinians and arab world (especially Iran where the religion is fused with hatred of the West).

            They do alot of things wrong, what's your point? Should we silence ourselves about Israel's crimes because Palestine may be equally as bad?
            No, we should recognize that both commit crimes, and say that one side is right over the other is silly. We also have to recognize that Palestinian terrorist groups often use their own people as human shields and thus the illusion is created that Israelis are somehow targeting innocent civilians, when Palestinian terrorist groups specifically target innocent civilians as they are to scared to confront the Israeli army.
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            • #56
              Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

              Originally posted by Mos View Post
              No, we should recognize that both commit crimes, and say that one side is right over the other is silly. We also have to recognize that Palestinian terrorist groups often use their own people as human shields and thus the illusion is created that Israelis are somehow targeting innocent civilians, when Palestinian terrorist groups specifically target innocent civilians as they are to scared to confront the Israeli army.
              Tell you what, we'll put you in Gaza behind the giant Gaza wall armed with stones and see if you're too scared to confront the Israeli army.

              One side isn't right but if you're going to fight, fight fair. Notice that when two other countries like Iran and Iraq went to war, the American weapons industry made sure that both sides had enough fire power to obliterate each other. Why shouldn't Hezbollah be able to import weapons into Lebanon when Israel imports billions of weapons from America? Why is one side labeled terrorists when the other side is the oppressor and has all the weapons?
              "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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              • #57
                Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

                Originally posted by Mos View Post
                Labelling the guy? He's a neo-Nazi how can you even give him the credit of listening to him? Yes I think his whole Fascist and racist ideology is wrong, the only people that support him are the backwards farmers of the American deep south. You want to associate yourself with them go ahead...
                First of all, in which court he was found guilty of these charges and was convicted? Secondly, if what this guy was saying are lies he would be in jail long time ago. And if you think the only people that support him are backward farmers of the deep south? I would give him some more time and see who are the real people that support him. Silencing people and oppressing them, twisting their words and labeling them by neo cons or neo zionists criminals won’t last long because people are waking up slowly and realizing what is going on, and who’s saying the truth and who’s not.

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                • #58
                  Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

                  Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
                  Tell you what, we'll put you in Gaza behind the giant Gaza wall armed with stones and see if you're too scared to confront the Israeli army.

                  One side isn't right but if you're going to fight, fight fair. Notice that when two other countries like Iran and Iraq went to war, the American weapons industry made sure that both sides had enough fire power to obliterate each other. Why shouldn't Hezbollah be able to import weapons into Lebanon when Israel imports billions of weapons from America? Why is one side labeled terrorists when the other side is the oppressor and has all the weapons?
                  And that gives justification to go and kill innocent civilians? Any person who justifies the murder of innocent civilians is a deeply disturbed individual.

                  One side is labelled terrorists because they specifically target civilians, while the other side tries to root out those groups, and unfortunately in the process civilians get killed either because the terrorist groups use them as human shields or carelessness by the Israeli army results in this, but the bottom line is it's indirect.

                  First of all, in which court he was found guilty of these charges and was convicted? Secondly, if what this guy was saying are lies he would be in jail long time ago. And if you think the only people that support him are backward farmers of the deep south? I would give him some more time and see who are the real people that support him. Silencing people and oppressing them, twisting their words and labeling them by neo cons or neo zionists criminals won’t last long because people are waking up slowly and realizing what is going on, and who’s saying the truth and who’s not.
                  You don't need a court to label him as a Neo-Nazi. He was head of the KKK for crying out loud, you really have to be a deranged racist to be head of that group. And no, people don't go to jail for the ideas, there's free speech. He can say all the lies and BS he wants, the law can't touch him in America. I know very well what he says and it fits into the general pattern of all the other neo-Nazis. As an Armenian how can you even contemplate to support Nazi ideology? Try going to Russia and tell the neo-Nazis there that you are Armenian, they will run after you with an ax. Remember how many Armenians gave up their lives fighting against that ideology. It's a real shame what you're are doing and I hope you stop.

                  People like Duke and other neo-Nazi fanatics are well cornered off by the rest populace, especially by the educated ones. They are in the extreme minority and will stay like that and hopefully go away some day.
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                  • #59
                    Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

                    Originally posted by Mos View Post
                    Labelling the guy? He's a neo-Nazi how can you even give him the credit of listening to him? Yes I think his whole Fascist and racist ideology is wrong, the only people that support him are the backwards farmers of the American deep south. You want to associate yourself with them go ahead...
                    Even the best intellectuals will listen/read the stuff of shady people, knowledge is knowledge, let people gather new ideas, it doesn't mean they want to "support him".

                    Originally posted by Mos View Post
                    It's a disgusting shirt, but you can find plenty of similar propaganda against the West/Israel among Palestinians and arab world (especially Iran where the religion is fused with hatred of the West).
                    Oh please, now you've shown your true colors. The majority of Iranians don't care one bit about Islam or any of that religion garbage. You'll find more religious Christians in Iran than religious Muslims. You think the youth in Iran are praying on the weekends? Hahaha

                    Originally posted by Mos View Post
                    No, we should recognize that both commit crimes, and say that one side is right over the other is silly. We also have to recognize that Palestinian terrorist groups often use their own people as human shields and thus the illusion is created that Israelis are somehow targeting innocent civilians, when Palestinian terrorist groups specifically target innocent civilians as they are to scared to confront the Israeli army.
                    Which side has taken more civilian casualties again? Feel free to tell me, you seem to know everything about the conflict. People were forced out of their land, now you see them as the bad guys for wanting their families to be safe from attacks and raids.

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                    • #60
                      Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

                      Originally posted by Mos View Post
                      And that gives justification to go and kill innocent civilians? Any person who justifies the murder of innocent civilians is a deeply disturbed individual.

                      One side is labelled terrorists because they specifically target civilians, while the other side tries to root out those groups, and unfortunately in the process civilians get killed either because the terrorist groups use them as human shields or carelessness by the Israeli army results in this, but the bottom line is it's indirect.
                      So the use of white phosphorous by the Israeli military on civilians was indirect? The carnage in Sabra and Shatila was indirect? The terrorist bombing of the King David hotel in Palestine by Zionist terror groups was indirect? The list goes on and on.
                      "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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