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  • Re: Current Condition of Armenia

    Originally posted by Mukuch View Post
    they refused to allow any protection (tent) for him....
    In any normal country it would not be allowed to set up a tent in the middle of the city centre. If I would go on a hunger strike in the middle of Amsterdam and put up a tent there do you think they would let me stay? Why did Raffi think they should make an exception for him? The arrogance...

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    • Re: Current Condition of Armenia

      Originally posted by Lernakan View Post
      In any normal country it would not be allowed to set up a tent in the middle of the city centre. If I would go on a hunger strike in the middle of Amsterdam and put up a tent there do you think they would let me stay? Why did Raffi think they should make an exception for him? The arrogance...
      You are wrong. If you would go to hungerstrike in centre of Amsterdam the city will PROVIDE you with a tent

      The attitude of Armenian governament shows how far Armenia is from being a civilized country...
      Last edited by Mukuch; 03-22-2011, 05:26 AM.

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      • Re: Current Condition of Armenia

        Originally posted by KarotheGreat View Post
        This explains everything
        What exactly "everything" ?

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        • Re: Current Condition of Armenia

          Originally posted by Mukuch View Post
          You are wrong. If you would go to hungerstrike in centre of Amsterdam the city will PROVIDE you with a tent

          The attitude of Armenian governament shows how far Armenia is from being a civilised country...
          To except such comforts is bizarre.

          The whole point of a hunger strike is to make yourself “uncomfortable”,
          endure suffering and be in sympathy with the cause.

          The authorities providing or allowing the comforts of life during a time like this
          frankly would be taking the piss.

          What would you expect next, toasted sandwiches?
          Last edited by londontsi; 03-22-2011, 05:37 AM.
          Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
          Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
          Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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          • Re: Current Condition of Armenia

            Originally posted by Mukuch View Post
            You are wrong. If you would go to hungerstrike in centre of Amsterdam the city will PROVIDE you with a tent

            The attitude of Armenian governament shows how far Armenia is from being a civilized country...
            They would also give you money to buy some drugs
            "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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            • Re: Current Condition of Armenia

              Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
              They would also give you money to buy some drugs
              Well not sure about that one... but apparently you are more competent in the subject

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              • Re: Current Condition of Armenia

                Originally posted by londontsi View Post
                To except such comforts is bizarre.

                The whole point of a hunger strike is to make yourself “uncomfortable”,
                endure suffering and be in sympathy with the cause.

                The authorities providing or allowing the comforts of life during a time like this
                frankly would be taking the piss.

                What would you expect next, toasted sandwiches?
                No... but some medical monitoring and much more.... there are usual practices in such cases in civilized world...
                Last edited by Mukuch; 03-23-2011, 01:44 AM.

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                • Re: Current Condition of Armenia



                  Ter-Petrosian Cites ‘Christian Morality’ for Snubbing Hovannisian

                  YEREVAN—Armenian National Congress leader Levon Ter-Petrosian explained Tuesday that his lack of support for Heritage party leader Raffi Hovannisian’s hunger strike stemmed from his strict Christian principles.

                  “Christianity to me is primarily a moral code [of conduct],” the radical opposition newspaper, Haykakan Zhamank, on Tuesday quoted Ter-Petrosian as explaining his snub. “This code categorically rejects the blatant display of virtues—piety, charity, humility—including a public display of fasting. When a virtue is put on exhibit, it ceases to be a virtue.”

                  Hovannisian, who began a hunger strike in Liberty Square, demanding the snap polls in Armenia on March 15, was snubbed by Ter-Petrosian and other Armenian National Congress leaders last Thursday, when after leading a rally to Liberty Square ignored Hovannisian, despite reports that upon entering Liberty Square the crowd of protesters began chanting “Raffi, Raffi…”

                  Hovannisian saw this as a politically calculated step from Ter-Petrosian and claimed that the first president of the republic was back-peddling from his convictions, upon which the Armenian National Congress was created.

                  Ter-Petrosian continued his explanation by quoting a prominent Armenian Church figure from the fifth century, Hovhan Madakuni, who said: “Satan destroys a person that’s fasting who puts himself above others and wants to make his actions public for others to admire his courage.”

                  “If Raffi Hovannisian went on a hunger strike with specific political demands, instead of showing off, I would welcome that and express my full support,” added Ter-Petrosian.

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                  So ... if anybody had doubts that he is not Christian ( but a J3w) you have been proven wrong !!

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                  Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
                  Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
                  Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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                  • Re: Current Condition of Armenia

                    Originally posted by londontsi View Post
                    http://asbarez.com/94332/ter-petrosi...g-hovannisian/

                    Ter-Petrosian Cites ‘Christian Morality’ for Snubbing Hovannisian

                    YEREVAN—Armenian National Congress leader Levon Ter-Petrosian explained Tuesday that his lack of support for Heritage party leader Raffi Hovannisian’s hunger strike stemmed from his strict Christian principles.

                    “Christianity to me is primarily a moral code [of conduct],” the radical opposition newspaper, Haykakan Zhamank, on Tuesday quoted Ter-Petrosian as explaining his snub. “This code categorically rejects the blatant display of virtues—piety, charity, humility—including a public display of fasting. When a virtue is put on exhibit, it ceases to be a virtue.”

                    Hovannisian, who began a hunger strike in Liberty Square, demanding the snap polls in Armenia on March 15, was snubbed by Ter-Petrosian and other Armenian National Congress leaders last Thursday, when after leading a rally to Liberty Square ignored Hovannisian, despite reports that upon entering Liberty Square the crowd of protesters began chanting “Raffi, Raffi…”

                    Hovannisian saw this as a politically calculated step from Ter-Petrosian and claimed that the first president of the republic was back-peddling from his convictions, upon which the Armenian National Congress was created.

                    Ter-Petrosian continued his explanation by quoting a prominent Armenian Church figure from the fifth century, Hovhan Madakuni, who said: “Satan destroys a person that’s fasting who puts himself above others and wants to make his actions public for others to admire his courage.”

                    “If Raffi Hovannisian went on a hunger strike with specific political demands, instead of showing off, I would welcome that and express my full support,” added Ter-Petrosian.

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                    So ... if anybody had doubts that he is not Christian ( but a J3w) you have been proven wrong !!

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                    He is not xxx nether christian... he has no God and he is imoral hypocrit.

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                    • Re: Current Condition of Armenia

                      Originally posted by londontsi View Post
                      http://asbarez.com/94332/ter-petrosi...g-hovannisian/

                      Ter-Petrosian Cites ‘Christian Morality’ for Snubbing Hovannisian


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                      So ... if anybody had doubts that he is not Christian ( but a J3w) you have been proven wrong !!

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                      Who knew? Who knew that being a KGB operative during the Soviet era qualified someone to be a Christian? Who knew that having political opponents killed during the war for Artsakh’s liberation qualified someone to [...]


                      So Now He’s A Christian…


                      Who knew?

                      Who knew that being a KGB operative during the Soviet era qualified someone to be a Christian?

                      Who knew that having political opponents killed during the war for Artzakh’s liberation qualified someone to be a Christian?

                      Who knew that “winning” the Republic of Armenia’s first presidential election through fraud qualified someone to be a Christian?

                      Who knew that founding the current, corrupt, kleptocratic oligarchy that rules the RoA qualified someone to be a Christian?

                      Who knew that banning the ARF from operating publicly and jailing many of its leaders under trumped up charges during the mid-1990s qualified someone to be a Christian?

                      Who knew that engaging in activities designed to disrupt and disable the three original Armenian political parties qualified someone to be a Christian?

                      Who knew that once ousted from office, completely disappearing from the public arena until the opportunity arose for another ego-driven, anti-Armenian-interests-serving based, candidacy for president qualified someone to be a Christian?

                      Who knew that cynically meeting with ARF leaders in an effort to rehabilitate one’s public image in the lead-up to the 2008 election qualified someone to be a Christian?

                      Who knew that being a proximate cause of the death of ten people (though clearly the ultimate blame lies with the authorities in power) during the post-2008 election demonstrations qualified someone to be a Christian?

                      Who knew that arrogantly ignoring Raffi Hovannisian’s presence in Liberty Square while he was engaged in a hunger strike in service of, ostensibly, the same cause —Armenians’ liberation and Armenia’s development— while leading a rally in the same place qualified someone to be a Christian?

                      Who knew that saying:

                      “Christianity to me is primarily a moral code [of conduct]… This code categorically rejects the blatant display of virtues—piety, charity, humility—including a public display of fasting. When a virtue is put on exhibit, it ceases to be a virtue.”

                      and, quoting from a fifth century writer, whom he probably read during his years as a scholar in the bowels of the Madenataran and not out of any pious interest, added:

                      “Satan destroys a person that’s fasting who puts himself above others and wants to make his actions public for others to admire his courage.”

                      thus demonstrating extreme cynicism in doing exactly what he’s condemning by wrapping himself in religiosity to deflect appropriate criticism, qualified someone to be a Christian?

                      In short, who knew that one of the most destructive elements on the Armenian political scene, Levon Der Bedrosian, was such a Christian? You might write him and tell him not to dishonor the church and Armenians by cloaking his chicanery in Christianity.
                      Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
                      Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
                      Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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