Current Condition of Armenia

[arakeretzig]

Re: Current Condition of Armenia

People start talking about 'revolution' like it's some sort of game. One should understand the immense amount of turmoil revolution can bring to a country. A revolution in Armenia (which would be by Levonakan Western Agents) would be an utter disaster and would give a green light for a war to start in Karabakh. Revolution shows division and weakness. Armenia has been improving in many aspects. Just compare Armenia to our neighbours or other ex-Soviet states and we are doing pretty well. For example, I have an Armenian friend who lives in Moscow, and he says that in Armenia there's much more freedom than in Russia. In Armenia, people can say whatever they want about the President/Government, down to the worst curse. The media fairly covered all the sides during the elections and the judicial process and steadily improved, even better than Russia's. I won't even talk about Azerbaijan which is a full blown dictatorship, and in Georgia it's a facade of "democracy" but in reality being controlled by Saakashvili and his thugs. We are improving at a good pace, and calling for revolution and such talk is truly uncalled for.

this revolution talk crap is feeding off poor people's frustrations. 2008 march 1's events shows us that the unthinkable could indeed happen. The euro wussies/the juice/turks hope to destroy Armenia from within.

[Eddo211]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

"Armenians are under a western sponsored psy-ops.

Do you have anything to back that up with comrade (like a reliable source) other than your USphobia and hatred of anything that is not Russian?

[davidoga]

Re: Current Condition of Armenia

this revolution talk crap is feeding off poor people's frustrations. 2008 march 1's events shows us that the unthinkable could indeed happen. The euro wussies/the juice/turks hope to destroy Armenia from within.

I think there is a misunderstanding. When I say revolution, I don't mean people waving around pitchforks and burning stuff down. I simply mean a political change that is outside traditional method (outside of elections). This is necessary because , with the current system, any change will first have to go through the approval of a certain group of people (the ruling administration and the oligarchs), meaning that there is no political change at all. I call it a revolution because 1. it would be a big deal and 2. It would in all likelihood not be a very long process.

I am clear on the fact that this is not a game. But real change can only happen in this way.

@Armanen: Nobody calls it the "American War of Indepence." It is reffered to as the "Revolutionary War." Again, not argueing about this. I don't lnow why you put Armenian in quotes when referring to me. I'm pretty sure you don't doubt my heritage. You probably mean that the mentality I advocate for is not the one that you agree with. This does not change the fact that I am Armenian.

I can't help it that you are OK with a sub-standard quality of life in Armenia. You think you are doing your country a service by showering it with compliments. But your not. You are placing limitations on Armenia. That is what you are implying when siding with the current government and oligarchy. You're wrong. Armenia can be a great nation. It can have net immigration instead of net emmigration. It can be promising to investors. It can provide the same standard of life as the West. But it will only achieve those things with rule of law. The oligarchy and ruling family has special status in Armenia. The hundreds of businesses in Yerevan are owned by a handful of people. This is simply uncompetitive.

[Eddo211]

Re: Current Condition of Armenia

From my point of view Sarkissian is the best president Armenia has ever had.....he would get my vote if I was in Armenia. I also see Armenia being on the right course and I am aware that change doesn't just happen over night.

Look at the neighbors.....who is more reasonable

Erdogoon
Shaka
Aliyvoor
or Serj

[Siggie]

Re: Current Condition of Armenia

Don't want to get into a political argument but people I've spoken to are frustrated and would love to leave. I've heard of much corruption. Just a day ago our driver said he had to pay his sons teachers so he could attend college. Life is good for the few who are well off and those bringing their money from elsewhere. When I've asked about starting a business here, I was told to wait until there's less corruption because it makes it extremely difficult to succeed at this time. Potential invesstors are indeed scared; I am one and I am. :/

[davidoga]

Re: Current Condition of Armenia

From my point of view Sarkissian is the best president Armenia has ever had.....he would get my vote if I was in Armenia. I also see Armenia being on the right course and I am aware that change doesn't just happen over night.

Look at the neighbors.....who is more reasonable

Erdogoon
Shaka
Aliyvoor
or Serj

I agree with you. Sarkisian is relatively better than the other presidents that Armenia has had. Comparing Georgian and Azeri inferior leadership to Armenia's is laughable as well. Ergodan is probably a different story. Turkey was a backwards country till AKP party took power. As much as I hate to admit it, Recep is a great leader. All his moves are calculated. Even the slight Islamism that he brings to Turkey's otherwise "secular" insitution is meant to endear other Muslim nations.

[davidoga]

Re: Current Condition of Armenia

Don't want to get into a political argument but people I've spoken to are frustrated and would love to leave. I've heard of much corruption. Just a day ago our driver said he had to pay his sons teachers so he could attend college. Life is good for the few who are well off and those bringing their money from elsewhere. When I've asked about starting a business here, I was told to wait until there's less corruption because it makes it extremely difficult to succeed at this time. Potential invesstors are indeed scared; I am one and I am. :/

Thank you for enlightening some of the otherwise confused posters on this thread.

[Eddo211]

Re: Current Condition of Armenia

Thank you for enlightening some of the otherwise confused posters on this thread.

Lurk more....post less junior.

[Eddo211]

Re: Current Condition of Armenia

Don't want to get into a political argument but people I've spoken to are frustrated and would love to leave. I've heard of much corruption. Just a day ago our driver said he had to pay his sons teachers so he could attend college. Life is good for the few who are well off and those bringing their money from elsewhere. When I've asked about starting a business here, I was told to wait until there's less corruption because it makes it extremely difficult to succeed at this time. Potential invesstors are indeed scared; I am one and I am. :/

I hear the same thing here and I am sure it is very hard but when you look at international conducts the President has acted very well in the interest of Armenia. I also see alot of small good changes in Armenia and things usually get worst before they get better.

With that said Armenians in Armenia would have a better feel of the pulse of their government.

[davidoga]

Re: Current Condition of Armenia

Lurk more....post less junior.

"Wolf Hunter", huh? What do you hunt them with, your keyboard?

I will post as much as I want to.