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  • Re: Current Condition of Armenia

    I have not lived in motherland but I have also noticed what gegev is pointing to from outside.
    B0zkurt Hunter

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    • Re: Current Condition of Armenia

      Originally posted by Hakob View Post
      Agree 100%.
      It will take time for people to realise how much soviet system destroyed people's drive to create with patience and work ethics.
      Most of all the ethics of people's interactions within...
      But the Soviet system also encouraged people to create with patience and work ethics. It subsidised and supported writers and artists - which enabled them to take time to create things that would not otherwise have been created. It was also extremely into promoting "work ethics" to control and incentivise the ordinary working population - but that was ultimately all a facade because those who ran the system were completely uninterested in having ethics themselves. However, I think that it is too much to blame all Armenia's current social problems and the attitudes of its citizens on some "work ethic" con that was pulled on them a generation ago - and the attempt to do it probably says a lot about the problem.
      Plenipotentiary meow!

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      • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

        Originally posted by Sarkis86 View Post
        That is the single stupidest thing I have read on this declining forum.
        Fixed it for you.

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        • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

          Originally posted by hrai View Post
          Fixed it for you.
          You do not fake quotes, ever, under any circumstances. Doing it should be a banning offense.
          Last edited by bell-the-cat; 07-26-2013, 01:02 PM.
          Plenipotentiary meow!

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          • Re: Current Condition of Armenia

            That is not faking quotes Bells...it was a correction. You know very well there are much more stupid comments in this forum compared to jem comment in this thread, so hrai is right and you are blowing smoke as usual.
            B0zkurt Hunter

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            • Re: Current Condition of Armenia

              Originally posted by Eddo211 View Post
              That is not faking quotes Bells...it was a correction. You know very well there are much more stupid comments in this forum compared to jem comment in this thread, so hrai is right and you are blowing smoke as usual.
              Damn right Eddojan.
              troll-the-cat is probably one of the main reasons that there are so many missing members/quotes/activity here.

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              • Re: Current Condition of Armenia

                Hey everyone, this is a fundraising effort started by some of us Birthright Armenia alumni from the LA area
                any help would be greatly appreciated


                Fundraising to buy school supplies for school children in small villages outside of Gyumri, Armenia | Check out 'Gyumri Education Fund' on Indiegogo.

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                • Re: Current Condition of Armenia

                  Sounds like a good thing. I am glad to see young people taking part in this way.
                  Originally posted by Mher View Post
                  Hey everyone, this is a fundraising effort started by some of us Birthright Armenia alumni from the LA area
                  any help would be greatly appreciated


                  http://igg.me/at/gyumri
                  Hayastan or Bust.

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                  • Re: Current Condition of Armenia

                    Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
                    But the Soviet system also encouraged people to create with patience and work ethics. It subsidised and supported writers and artists - which enabled them to take time to create things that would not otherwise have been created. It was also extremely into promoting "work ethics" to control and incentivise the ordinary working population - but that was ultimately all a facade because those who ran the system were completely uninterested in having ethics themselves. However, I think that it is too much to blame all Armenia's current social problems and the attitudes of its citizens on some "work ethic" con that was pulled on them a generation ago - and the attempt to do it probably says a lot about those current problems.

                    ANAHIT SAHINIAN'S 'AUTOBIOGRAPHICAL ESSAY'


                    Armenian News Network / Groong
                    The Critical Corner - July 29, 2013

                    by Eddie Arnavoudian


                    This 'Autobiographical Essay' (384pp, 2006) by Anahit Sahinian,
                    published three years before her death at 93, is a bitter goodbye to
                    the 20th century Soviet Armenian age and to life itself by one of the
                    finest Armenian novelists of that era, who having put a foot into the
                    21st century felt herself 'an illegal visitor there'. This is a final
                    testament, a moving personal remembrance and simultaneously an acute
                    and illuminating socio-political, cultural and literary evaluation of
                    an epoch and its end, hugely rewarding irrespective of attitudes to
                    the author's rejection of the post-Soviet capitalist order.

                    Sahinian whose life and novels spanned the Soviet decades - she was
                    born in 1917 - stands out as a striking, forceful and stubborn
                    personality, clearly possessed of will and strength that enabled her
                    to survive the bureaucratic grinder of the Soviet era and the market
                    bludgeon of the post-Soviet decades to produce a substantial body of
                    impressive literary and critical work. An unbending life would not be
                    an inappropriate description.

                    Globally, the 20th century may have been a century of war and
                    barbarism. But for Sahinian and for Soviet Armenians she insists in
                    its substantial portion it was an era of stability, cultural flourish
                    and socio-economic progress against which in fact previous Armenian
                    centuries and the two decades that followed the Soviet demise stand
                    out as barbaric.


                    A.

                    Anahit Sahinian offers us an impressive account of why, in contrast to
                    many of her contemporaries, she remained and that to her end, loyal to
                    egalitarian ideals imbibed in her early village and school life.

                    Sounding a polemic against those who dismiss socialism as a hostile
                    imposition, Sahinian notes that in the first instance it was Armenian
                    social conditions, reflected in modern Armenian literature, that
                    served to fertilise ideological sympathy for socialist revolutionary
                    movements sweeping through the Tsarist Empire. That `we were well
                    prepared to destroy the old' she writes `we owe' among other things
                    `to our classical literature', (p26) to Hovanness Toumanian, Berj
                    Broshian and others whose writings exposed the poverty and inequality
                    of Armenian life. International literary currents - xxxxens and Hugo
                    are mentioned - also helped `prepare the ground for the rooting of
                    socialist thought.' (p27)

                    That the Soviet order was to find some of its sturdiest supporters
                    among women like Sahinian who were born into conservative rural
                    Armenia appears also unsurprising. The Soviet era released women from
                    direct material need and from the heavier shackles of male oppression.
                    It opened for them, for Sahinian, unimaginable avenues for professional
                    personal advance. Soviet society spared women the tragic fate of young
                    `Maro' told in Toumanian's poetic epic to which Sahinian refers as an
                    example of the radical substance of Armenian literature.

                    To escape brutal pre-arranged child marriage, domestic abuse and rape
                    Maro is driven to death in bleak and wild mountains. In contrast, for
                    the young Sahinian `fortune had turned'. She `lived in happy times'
                    (p26-27), going `to school where in its safety' she `could recite' the
                    epic of Maro's destiny.' Inspired by unprecedented opportunity for
                    education, Sahinian also managed to resist `hammer blow' pressures to
                    early marriage: for many women a pre-mature termination of education
                    and career. While `many did not want to continue education... I was
                    not of the many. I still had a road to travel. I still had a mountain
                    to climb...' The Soviet age evidently afforded her the opportunity to
                    do so, and so she was able to live life as writer, novelist, editor,
                    educator and social activist.

                    Social and political commentary is meshed into the story of Sahinian's
                    personal life, her sporting prowess, her school and university days,
                    her marriage and the early death of her husband with whom she shared
                    the `last happy days of her life'. Revealing a feel for the times she
                    tells us of friendships and relations with contemporary literary and
                    political figures, of the older generation of Avetik Issahakian and
                    the younger of Barouyr Sevak's age. She tells also of unceasing
                    battles against bureaucratic obstruction of her literary endeavours.

                    As an adherent of the critical realist tradition in literature
                    Sahinian had no time for a `socialist realism' that `demanded not art'
                    but the dishonest `beautification of life with glories offered to the
                    Communist Party and to Stalin!' For telling social truths crass
                    censors attempted to block publication deeming her novels
                    `pornographic' for portraying domestic infidelities! But Anahit
                    Sahinian prevailed. Her `The Crossroads' and `Longing' in particular
                    remain unmatched, audacious, against-the-stream critical
                    reconstructions of the Soviet decades - warts and all, from the
                    highest echelons of state to private domestic turmoil.

                    Beyond personal and gender considerations Sahinian underlines the oft
                    forgotten truth that Soviet era economic transformations generated
                    unquestionable national and popular support from survivors of the
                    genocide who had taken refuge in what became Soviet Armenia and from
                    the people of eastern Armenia devastated by war, famine and disease.
                    Particularly after the end of the 1937 purges and the World War II
                    years of `rationed bread', when `even mention of sugar was impossible'
                    `the good times' arrived. Economic advance, cultural, educational and
                    public development transformed people's lives:

                    `The Armenian mother was proud that her son had become an
                    engineer, her orphan child who had experienced the plight of
                    refugees was now participant in the reconstruction of the
                    homeland.' (p43)

                    Yet as she travels and journeys through the memories of her life and
                    times Sahinian also draws an eye opening landscape of the negative
                    sides of Soviet Armenian life too - the question of Lake Sevan and its
                    declining waters, the Azeri repopulation of Armenian border villages,
                    the turmoil of the Gorbachev years and much more.


                    B.

                    Despite total disdain for the post-Soviet order Sahinian does not
                    glorify the Soviet era. Offering her explanation of the collapse of
                    Soviet socialism she targets its elite's tyrannical corruption that in
                    her view led to disillusion in the idea of socialism, to Soviet
                    degeneration and its eventual disintegration. Here the 1937 Purges
                    were a critical turning point. They `tarnished the grand ideals we
                    possessed' and drove away `enlightened men of the world' who had
                    hitherto regarded the USSR as a force of `global salvation'.
                    Destroying an entire generation of honest and dedicated communist,
                    socialist and patriotic cadre, 1937 hoisted into leadership a
                    despicable group of opportunists in whose hands the communist party
                    became `a mighty tyrannical pyramid' feeding its own privilege and
                    status.

                    Though a modicum of material security had been assured for all,
                    remembrance of the thousands killed during the purges and the
                    explosion of bureaucratic greed, selfishness and rampant opportunism
                    that followed haemorrhaged not only social and economic life but faith
                    in the very idea of socialism. Corruption and nepotism, bribery and
                    kickbacks spread through every sphere of society so tarnishing the
                    ideology of socialism that faith in any possible progressive,
                    egalitarian reform was destroyed! The baby was thrown out with the
                    dirty water believes Sahinian.

                    It was not of course an age without hope, hope that we read of in
                    reminiscences of the national revival during the years following the
                    50th anniversary of the Armenian genocide, the latter struggle over
                    Garabagh during and indeed even before the Gorbachev days. However
                    with the ground removed for a vision of egalitarian reform and
                    reconstruction, all this enthusiasm and optimism was exploited by new
                    elites that secured the triumph of a cannibal capitalism that Sahinian
                    damns with ruthless reason.

                    In the post-Soviet regime, a leadership more corrupt and selfish than
                    any in the Soviet era took the helm destroying the economic
                    foundations of Armenian national life.

                    `...like wolves come upon a defenceless flock of sheep, they fell
                    upon the republic's economy, and in the first instance its
                    productive capacity....they divided the factories among
                    themselves, calling it privatisation and shipped them as scrap
                    metal to neighbouring countries.' (p299)

                    All that `belonged to the nation' was seized by a regime `shaped by
                    criminals', even pavements and parks were privatised as were the
                    shores of Lake Sevan. `The people were pushed aside. They were not
                    needed...', `let them emigrate' for all this new elite cared. The less
                    people the easier it would be for the band of newly rich `to tailor a
                    constitution that enabled them to sell and resell national wealth
                    among themselves'.

                    Sahinian recalls when she had visited Paris during the Soviet era she
                    had been stunned by the sight of beggars in the streets of that xxxel
                    western capital city. She recalls the pride she felt in her homeland
                    back then:

                    `...beggars in Paris! In Armenia we had forgotten that they
                    existed. This small Armenia that had seen Genocide, the loss of
                    its western lands and a people brought to the edge of
                    annihilation, today has neither rich nor poor, neither does it
                    have beggars, and for this I take the liberty to feel proud as I
                    stand in the Paris that amazes the world.'

                    In the immediate years of post-Soviet Armenia there appeared little
                    left to be proud of. Produced by economic, social, educational and
                    cultural collapse, beggars returned once more to Armenian city
                    streets. The nation was devastated, a bitter truth underlined by the
                    flight of tens and hundreds of thousands, a frightening emptying of
                    the homeland, a digging of its grave set in motion by the new selfish
                    elite.

                    Frail and ill, unaccustomed to the depredations of new voracious
                    capitalist elites, unable to accommodate to the social and economic
                    disintegration, to mass poverty, unemployment and cultural collapse,
                    it is understandable that Sahinian would have felt an `illegal
                    immigrant' to the 21st century. Yet this 21st century `Autobiographical
                    Essay' and with all that she bequeathed, Sahinian keeps a bright
                    lantern alight for those searching for paths through the dark and
                    rubble strewn horizons of Armenian national life.
                    Plenipotentiary meow!

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                    • Re: Current Condition of Armenia

                      Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
                      That `we were well
                      prepared to destroy the old' she writes `we owe' among other things
                      `to our classical literature', (p26) to Hovanness Toumanian, Berj
                      Broshian and others whose writings exposed the poverty and inequality
                      of Armenian life. International literary currents - xxxxens and Hugo
                      are mentioned - also helped `prepare the ground for the rooting of
                      socialist thought.' (p27)
                      There can be little ground-preparing for any thought in a forum that censors the names of famous authors.
                      Plenipotentiary meow!

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