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    China-Armenia relations

    It is now official - China is theenumber 2 economy on earth. China surpasses Japan this week officialy but in truth it has been the number two economy for a while. So how is this relevant to Armenia? It so happens that Turky and China do not like each other. The turks who are notorious human rights abusers have for some time been accusing China of discriminating against turkish minorities in China. I think these two facts are important to note for Armenia. I hope in this thread we can discuss issues realting to chinese-armenian relations or anything relavent to it.
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    Re: China-Armenia relations

    Last year when President Sarkisian met with Hu Jintao the Chineese President described Armenia as a trustworthy friend, sincere partner, and have always threated each other as equals and with respect. They also support each other in international arena. Sakisian has said that the relationship has advanced to a higher level.

    There are many projects the two countries are working on like the multi-million dollara reconstruction project on two Armenian thermal powerplants (one is operational now), a joint venture making synthatic rubber which Armenia holds the technology (Soviet era chemical factory in yerevan), and an increase in trade that has passed Germany and put China second to Russia. This trade is increasing at a rate of 66% a year (95 million now) which works out to be 9.5% of Armenia's foreign trade. China has been invited by Sarkisian to get involved in the construction of Iran-Armenia railroad and Chinese telecommunication companies have shown interest to invest in Armenia.

    According to Sarkisian forging close links to Beijing is one of his foreign policy priorities. China also votes against Azerbaijan on NKR conflict.

    Oh yea, their J-10s are for Sale.....Iran is buying a few



    Come on now....me want.
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      Re: China-Armenia relations

      I get wary of triangles which are “unsustainable”.

      Armenia wishes to have good relations with China and that is great.
      Armenia also wants good relations with India and that is great also.

      Unfortunately India and China are not the greatest of pals.
      It means Armenia has to tread a tightrope which requires strategic thinking as well as great diplomatic skill.

      Similar triangle exists for Turkey/Iran-Turkey/Azerbaijan.
      Azerbaijan manages to make a hash of it every time.

      I hope we make things work for us better.
      Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
      Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
      Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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        Re: China-Armenia relations

        Armenia should have no problem. We are the country that successfully balances relations with Russia-Iran-USA. Besides, we're too insignificant for either side to really damage relations with one by building relations with the other.
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          Re: China-Armenia relations

          Originally posted by londontsi View Post
          I get wary of triangles which are “unsustainable”.

          Armenia wishes to have good relations with China and that is great.
          Armenia also wants good relations with India and that is great also.

          Unfortunately India and China are not the greatest of pals.
          It means Armenia has to tread a tightrope which requires strategic thinking as well as great diplomatic skill.

          Similar triangle exists for Turkey/Iran-Turkey/Azerbaijan.
          Azerbaijan manages to make a hash of it every time.

          I hope we make things work for us better.
          I have always said Armenia would be the best honest mediator between Iran and USA.

          Our position here is also good. China knows we will take India's side against Pakistan who send Jihadists to NKR and don't recognize Armenia as a country.

          China is also aware of Pan-Turkism/Neo-Ottomanism/Pax-ottomano (same sht diferent flavor).......hell, the Chinese Wall was built mostly to keep the invading Turkic tribes out.

          J-10

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            Re: China-Armenia relations

            Originally posted by Federate View Post
            Armenia should have no problem. We are the country that successfully balances relations with Russia-Iran-USA. Besides, we're too insignificant for either side to really damage relations with one by building relations with the other.

            Federate and Eddo hit the nail on the head. Armenian diplomacy is not nearly as bad as some try to make it out to be. And Armenia is too small economically and its diplomatic reach is marginal so as not to threaten either India or China. Now if Armenia started dealing with official Taipai, then the Chinese would be pissed.
            For the first time in more than 600 years, Armenia is free and independent, and we are therefore obligated
            to place our national interests ahead of our personal gains or aspirations.



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              Re: China-Armenia relations

              Chinese Foreign Minister to pay official visit to Armenia

              February 15, 2011 | 17:28

              Foreign Minister of People’s Republic of China Yang Jiechi will pay an official visit to Armenia at the invitation of his Armenian counterpart on February 16-17.

              He will hold meetings with Armenian President Serzh Sargsyan, Prime Minister Tigran Sargsyan, Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian and Catholicos of All Armenians Karekin II, Armenian Foreign Office press service informed Armenian News-NEWS.am.

              Yang Jiechi will lay a wreath at the Armenian Genocide Memorial Tsitsernakaberd.

              The Chinese foreign minister’s visit to Armenia will be the first high-level visit to the country since it gained independence. The sides intend to deepen Armenia-China cooperation and discuss a wide range of regional and international issues.

              Chinese Foreign Minister to pay official visit to Armenia
              http://news.am/eng/news/48012.html
              He will meet Armenian President…
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                Re: China-Armenia relations

                lol, I ran across this website called TradersCity. Basically Chinese companies that want to do business/trade. So I type in Armenia and here are some of the results....

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                • #9
                  Re: China-Armenia relations

                  Originally posted by Armanen View Post
                  Armenian diplomacy is not nearly as bad as some try to make it out to be..


                  If you read my posting carefully I was suggesting caution rather than avoiding engagement.
                  ( Not that anybody at the Foreign Ministry would go by what I say !! )

                  As for Armenian diplomacy like anybody, have made mistakes.
                  Best way forward is to accept them and move on.

                  .
                  Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
                  Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
                  Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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                  • #10
                    Re: China-Armenia relations

                    Originally posted by Eddo211 View Post
                    China knows we will take India's side against Pakistan who send Jihadists to NKR and don't recognize Armenia as a country.

                    China is also aware of Pan-Turkism/Neo-Ottomanism/Pax-ottomano (same sht diferent flavor).......hell, the Chinese Wall was built mostly to keep the invading Turkic tribes out.
                    Pakistan is allied with China and the Chinese are on bad terms with India and the US. The reason why the Chinese are intrested in Armenia is it's proximity to Iran and the Chinese are looking to expand their West Asian trade.

                    The Great Wall of China was bulid by the Qin to guard against intrusions by the Xiongnu and Mongols. In the Tarim Basin the Indo-European Yuezhi allied themselves with the Sui and Tang against the proto-Turkic, Hunnic Xiongnu horde. (Proto-Turkic/Hunnic is a admixture of Western Eurasian and Mongol).

                    However like the Tocharians the Yuezhi where displaced westward into Northern India and it was the Tang and Uyghurs, who eventually brought down the Xiongnu. However in no small part it's Anatolian and Near Eastern peoples traversing the silk road, that gave rise to the Uyghur empire. Which is why Uighurs have so much Western Eurasian ancestry.

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