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    Mashallah?

    Ok, so I am reading this article (http://www.experienceproject.com/sto...rmenian/434740) about superstitions, and the author is saying"I was taught whenever I needed to praise or compliment something or someone, I should use the term "Mashallah" as a way of invoking God's blessing." Mashallah is Arabic. Does anyone know where this is from?
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    Re: Mashallah?

    Originally posted by Hyegirl View Post
    Ok, so I am reading this article (http://www.experienceproject.com/sto...rmenian/434740) about superstitions, and the author is saying"I was taught whenever I needed to praise or compliment something or someone, I should use the term "Mashallah" as a way of invoking God's blessing." Mashallah is Arabic. Does anyone know where this is from?
    What you should be asking; is who and what is Allah? As whilst Muhammad promoted Allah, over the other gods at the Ka'bah. His character/archetype did not alter and he is still the same deity.

    The Mohammedans God is not the same as the Christians. Allah is derived from the Goddess Al-lat and the Kaaba was originally dedicated to her son Hubal. As it was Hubal, who was the chief god of the 360 deities (solar calendar) at the Kaaba's Pantheon. At one time Allah had three daughters, al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat, who made intercession for him.

    The Kaaba's cube shape has mystical significance. As six is the first perfect number (there are six sides to a cube). The cube denotes truth and represents the planet Mercury in Pagan symbolism. Whilst the black stone at the eastern cornerstone of the Kaaba, represents Al-lat (Venus).

    Whilst Yahweh has the distinction of being the god of the mythical Israelites. In the Canaanite Pantheon El had sons and daugthers. Asherah, Baal, Anath, Dagon, and other gods existed along side the worship of Yahweh as the Canaanites like the Arabians where Polytheists.

    In much the same way that as Christianity, adopted certain pre-Christian Pagan aspects, such as Easter, which was originally a pagan spring equinox festival. Islam is also rich in pre-Islamic Pagan mythology and practises. Which is why for example the Islamic calendar governing Ramadan is based on the lunar cycle.

    2:189 They ask you, [O Muhammad], about the new moons. Say, "They are measurements of time for the people and for Hajj."

    The Ka'bah is accurately aligned to track the cycles of the moon and the rising of Canopus, the brightest star after Sirius. However from what I can gather it was adapted to accommodate Sirius.

    Hence the original Near Eastern/Arabian, astral pantheon was likely a solar and luna deity and a triple goddess. The solar deity ruling alone during the day. Whilst the luna and triple goddesses (the planet Venus and two stars Sirius, Canopus) emerge at night.

    53:49 "And that it is He who is the Lord of Sirius" - Surat An-Najm (The Star)

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      Re: Mashallah?

      Umm, ok. But why do Armenians say this, if this article is correct, and where did this tradition come from?

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        Re: Mashallah?

        Originally posted by Hyegirl View Post
        Umm, ok. But why do Armenians say this, if this article is correct, and where did this tradition come from?
        Mashallah (God has will it) is merely a Muslim Talisman ment to ward off evil, that Armenians acculturated whilst under Turkish rule.

        Mashallah - Wikipedia
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masha%27Allah

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          Re: Mashallah?

          Originally posted by Hyegirl View Post
          Umm, ok. But why do Armenians say this, if this article is correct, and where did this tradition come from?
          Never heard an Armenian say that. It must be said among Western Armenians who fled from Ottoman Empire.
          Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
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          "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

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            Re: Mashallah?

            Originally posted by retro View Post
            Mashallah (God has will it) is merely a Muslim Talisman ment to ward off evil, that Armenians acculturated whilst under Turkish rule.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masha%27Allah
            Ok, this makes sense.

            Originally posted by Mos View Post
            Never heard an Armenian say that. It must be said among Western Armenians who fled from Ottoman Empire.
            Thanks. I thought this was a bit suspicious.
            Last edited by Hyegirl; 11-13-2011, 11:03 AM.

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              Re: Mashallah?

              Originally posted by Hyegirl View Post
              Thanks. I thought this was a bit suspicious.
              Why do you care anyways about this?
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                Re: Mashallah?

                Originally posted by Mos View Post
                Why do you care anyways about this?
                The simplest answer is personality quirk.

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                  Re: Mashallah?

                  Idk about Armenians from Turkey, but I know Armenians from Arabic speaking countries use Ma'sha'Allah, which literally means "God has willed it." A good way to gauge where you would use it is to imagine where you'd hear the Yiddish/Hebrew phrase "Mazel'tov," which doesn't mean the same thing but is used in the same way. So an example would be,

                  A: "I JUST GOT A'S ON ALL MY FINALS!!!!"
                  B: "Mashallah!"

                  Armenians who use this phrase are also likely to use "In'sha'Allah" which means "God willing."

                  A: "I hope I get an A on all my finals."
                  B: "Inshallah"

                  I don't think a lot of diaspora Armenians even realize that they're saying islamic phrases, they just know what to use them for but don't really know the litteral translation.
                  Last edited by ara87; 11-14-2011, 06:46 PM.

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                    Re: Mashallah?

                    Originally posted by ara87 View Post
                    Idk about Armenians from Turkey, but I know Armenians from Arabic speaking countries use Ma'sha'Allah, which literally means "God has willed it." A good way to gauge where you would use it is to imagine where you'd hear the Yiddish/Hebrew phrase "Mazel'tov," which doesn't mean the same thing but is used in the same way. So for instance,

                    A: "I JUST GOT A'S ON ALL MY FINALS!!!!"
                    B: "Mashallah!"

                    Armenians who use this phrase are also likely to use "In'sha'Allah" which means "God willing."

                    I don't think a lot of diaspora Armenians even realize that they're saying islamic phrases, they just know what to use them for but don't really know the litteral translation.
                    It's a celebration b!tches, mashallah. Bolsahyes use it. Like if I see a girl with a nice rack, I say mashallah!
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