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  • #21
    It is not right because it does not follow the linguistic rules of Armenian, which have caused the language to stall. This is why there are so many borrowed words from Russian. It is difficult to create new words when the linguistic basics of a language have been artificially tinkered with.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by TigranJamharian
      My point is that it is not only what is official but what is used by people in Armenia, so ask any eastern Armenian how it is spelled and they will spell it like i did. And yes it is part of Turkey, call it our national symbol or whatever else but you will be lying if you tell someone that Ararat is in Armenia. now what in the world is your point?
      My point is just because something is official doesn't mean was have to accept it, we can revolt against it in a way. no one attacked you, we're saying in general this is something we need to reform. Hangeest mina.
      "All I know is I'm not a Marxist." -Karl Marx

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      • #23
        Originally posted by HyeJinx1984
        My point is just because something is official doesn't mean was have to accept it, we can revolt against it in a way. no one attacked you, we're saying in general this is something we need to reform. Hangeest mina.
        Did you not read my post where i said it would be good to reform the system in the future so that future generations are taught the classical spelling? As for revolt i dont understand what you are talking about, how do you revolt against 5 million people spelling a certain way? all you can do is teach future generations a different way, and the old way will be slowly phased out. The reason i am getting angry is that you dont take the time to read all of what i write.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by TigranJamharian
          Did you not read my post where i said it would be good to reform the system in the future so that future generations are taught the classical spelling? As for revolt i dont understand what you are talking about, how do you revolt against 5 million people spelling a certain way? all you can do is teach future generations a different way, and the old way will be slowly phased out. The reason i am getting angry is that you dont take the time to read all of what i write.
          I did read what you wrote and I agree with you, that's why I'm saying there's no reason to get mad. So calm the xxxx down.
          "All I know is I'm not a Marxist." -Karl Marx

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          • #25
            I don’t see how one is right and one is wrong.

            However, I would have to say that I like the “stalinian” way much better.
            I guess it comes down to which you’ve learned better, and are more comfortable with.


            And if Stalin could come ‘fix’ English grammar, and make it so that gh would not be read “h” sometimes, and “f” at other times, I’m sure it would contribute in a positive manner rather than a negative manner.

            Language is constantly evolving, growing, changing… Example: gh is written in the word ‘right’ because English originated from some Germanic tribes, the names of which I do not remember…Angles, and some other… I had heard a man speak ‘Enlgisc’ and he pronounced “right” ri-g-e-h-t the g pronounced with the actual g sound. So as the language evolved, the gh was not pronounced, but we kept the letters in the spelling.

            So if the g, nor the h are actually pronounced anymore, would it be wrong not to write it in anymore?....no.


            English is one of the richest languages, because just like America is the “melting pot”, as is the English language; which has one of the richest vocabulary, since we use words, and meanings from other languages. No other language has so many synonyms to words, as does English. And most of the synonyms have roots from other languages. We’re open to the change, and the open-ness contributes greatly to the language.


            Take a look at The Canterbury Tales, compare ‘Chaucerian English’, to the 'Modern English'.


            You cannot say that one is better, or more correct than the other.

            Back to my point. Who says change isn’t good?

            Simply because changes were made does not mean it is not as good. On the contrary usually when things are revised, they are done to make whatever it is, better in some way.


            Also Baron, what do you mean by Eastern spelling being flawed, and Western pronunciation being flawed?

            If Western Armenian spelling is the “unflawed” version, then this means that the pronunciation reflects off the spelling. So if you spell Tigran, Dikran, naturally you will pronounce it Dikran. My point; How can the spelling be ‘correct’, yet the pronunciation not?

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            • #26
              I think time is coming to abolish the dinstinctions between eastern and western Armenian.Thats plain stupid and childish.As long as someone is devoted to learn the language ,that what matters.They both are beautiful.
              I'm a monstrous mass of vile, foul & corrupted matter.

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              • #27
                You can try using unicode fonts to type Armenian here. Like this:

                հյուր
                հիւր

                There's also this transliterator:



                Type your text in Latin, translit, copy and paste here.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by nairi
                  You can try using unicode fonts to type Armenian here. Like this:

                  հյուր
                  հիւր

                  There's also this transliterator:



                  Type your text in Latin, translit, copy and paste here.

                  Nairi you are my hero ... thanks a loooooooooooooooooot...

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by TigranJamharian
                    My point is that it is not only what is official but what is used by people in Armenia, so ask any eastern Armenian how it is spelled and they will spell it like i did. And yes it is part of Turkey, call it our national symbol or whatever else but you will be lying if you tell someone that Ararat is in Armenia. now what in the world is your point?
                    I agree with you... I wanted to spell the word but I saw your spelling and thought that you found the greatest way to spell... I didn't even thing to spell in Arevmtahayeren, even though I know very well that way of spelling...

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by nairi
                      You can try using unicode fonts to type Armenian here. Like this:

                      հյուր
                      հիւր

                      There's also this transliterator:



                      Type your text in Latin, translit, copy and paste here.
                      Wait, wait, wait, wait.... how'd you do that? Unicode fonts? I'm a complete moron when it comes to stuff like this so go step by step...
                      "All I know is I'm not a Marxist." -Karl Marx

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