Socio-racial survey for Armenian members

[sleuth]

Look Armenia isn't even geographically considered European...I don't see what the big deal is here...its in Asian territory...what do you expect. I'm speaking of a literal point..of how people all over the world look at Armenia.

We belong European race group ( the branch of south european -> branch of Balkan -Caucasian race -> Armenoid type) .I didn't make this up.

It's truly pathetic.

[TJ]

There is no such thing as armenoid. that is some made up shyt and even though i agree with you the word armenoid has negative connotations from what i remember. And yes i share you're guys dissapointment and anger that some Armenians still consider themselves not white but you shouldnt get angry at them just try to explain to them where you are coming from.

[!EEK]

Armenia will maybe enter the Union in 30 years if no more...... a lot of people still don't agree with eastern european countries joining the EU..why would they for Armenia?

Don't get me wrong, I really want armenia to join the EU but I only count as 1 person

[xBaron Dants]

Hayer...why this insecurity? Why this aggressive longing to be considered "European"? Do we have anything to hide?

First of all... Armenia in the EU in 10-20 years? And can you tell me why the EU would eagerly embrace a country fighting poverty and corruption, and who is still at war with its neighbour? Because we're Christian? Or is it because we have a nice culture? Think with LOGIC guys, not idealized emotions. Heck, do we even know if we want to join the EU? Has any Armenian delegation filled out a report on the pros and cons of joining the EU if ever the opportunity arised? Would it benefit us economically, culturally, militarily? I'm not saying yes nor am I saying no...but don't you think we should know these things before becoming pathetic beggars willing to bend over backwards so the EU might give us a sticker? Same goes for the border issue with Turkey. Some will say we must open them because we need money, while others say it must stay closed because they have not accepted the genocide. Once again, has anybody actually investigated the pros and cons?

As for Armenians and our eternal obsession with being European...
Armenian is an Indo-European language. So is Hindi. Does that prove anything?
Our culture, in my opinion, cannot be classified as one or the other. Part of our folk music (Gomidas stuff, for example) is more "European", while other instruments, such as the kanon, zurna and so on are used mostly by Middle-Eastern cultures. Are we to deny that we enjoy the zurna now? That would be a shame..

From what I have seen, we are mostly white, but a considerable part of us have a darker complexion. Do we rule these people out as "fake" Armenians, or "unpure" Armenians so we fit in more in our European fantasy? In the end, what are we more attached to? Arnenian culture, or European culture?

I would've thought the choice would be pretty obvious..

[MadHandle]

Hayer...why this insecurity? Why this aggressive longing to be considered "European"? Do we have anything to hide?

First of all... Armenia in the EU in 10-20 years? And can you tell me why the EU would eagerly embrace a country fighting poverty and corruption, and who is still at war with its neighbour? Because we're Christian? Or is it because we have a nice culture? Think with LOGIC guys, not idealized emotions. Heck, do we even know if we want to join the EU? Has any Armenian delegation filled out a report on the pros and cons of joining the EU if ever the opportunity arised? Would it benefit us economically, culturally, militarily? I'm not saying yes nor am I saying no...but don't you think we should know these things before becoming pathetic beggars willing to bend over backwards so the EU might give us a sticker? Same goes for the border issue with Turkey. Some will say we must open them because we need money, while others say it must stay closed because they have not accepted the genocide. Once again, has anybody actually investigated the pros and cons?

As for Armenians and our eternal obsession with being European...
Armenian is an Indo-European language. So is Hindi. Does that prove anything?
Our culture, in my opinion, cannot be classified as one or the other. Part of our folk music (Gomidas stuff, for example) is more "European", while other instruments, such as the kanon, zurna and so on are used mostly by Middle-Eastern cultures. Are we to deny that we enjoy the zurna now? That would be a shame..

From what I have seen, we are mostly white, but a considerable part of us have a darker complexion. Do we rule these people out as "fake" Armenians, or "unpure" Armenians so we fit in more in our European fantasy? In the end, what are we more attached to? Arnenian culture, or European culture?

I would've thought the choice would be pretty obvious..

I couldn't have said it better...

[sleuth]

There is no such thing as armenoid. that is some made up shyt and even though i agree with you the word armenoid has negative connotations from what i remember. And yes i share you're guys dissapointment and anger that some Armenians still consider themselves not white but you shouldnt get angry at them just try to explain to them where you are coming from.

The Armenoid type has the following physical characters: Height and build, medium; head short from back to front, with large and fleshy nose turned down towards the tip. The lips are rather prominent. The hair is black and curly, the skin is of the swarthy colour, and the eyes are black or brown. It is a marked feature of this race that the skull goes straight up at the back; in other words, the Armenoid has "no back to his head." There is also a tendency for the eyebrows to "meet" over the nose The chin is usually poorly developed.

Tigran: you are right Armenoid has negative indication . Well,who said we are perfect?

[Hayq]

Why can't we just be Armenian and proud of it? Does everything have to end with a mass murder of millions of people? Cmon now!

There are White European Armenians, there are Dark Skinned Armenians, there are blonde armenians and there are blach haired armenians, ones with big noses and others with smalls..we all are Armenians. And since when has there been such thing as an Armenian Race? We are a mixture of different people that have united under a common tongue. EOM!

[xBaron Dants]

Yay! Another self-confident, conscious, and proud Armenian!
More power to you Hayq!

[xBaron Dants]

I never said that we should define our race as "Armenian". Frankly, I just don't care much about what race we fall in.

[Hayq]

Yup. We are Armenian, our own style of people. We have lived close Russia and the Middle East, and have adopted many of their ways. We also ahve lived in Europe and America, adding more to our uniqueness. Just let it be, bro. Lol but no inter-racial sh*t. haha, not my style.