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Originally posted by HayqGoey, you are an arse.
BTW read my signature I do hope you realize I was messing with you..omgosshh ppplllllllll.............Last edited by XxgoeyxX; 11-28-2004, 02:27 PM.You can't hold a man down without staying down with him.
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How are Armenians gonna be European when Europe doesn't even recognize you...like I said Armenia is just not all European...I lived there enough to experiece a lot of things, traditions, way of living, etc...and I can tell you its a mixture of European, middle eastern,etc...Theres nothing wrong with diversity, you can't just classify it into one group.
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Originally posted by MadHandleHow are Armenians gonna be European when Europe doesn't even recognize you...like I said Armenia is just not all European...I lived there enough to experiece a lot of things, traditions, way of living, etc...and I can tell you its a mixture of European, middle eastern,etc...Theres nothing wrong with diversity, you can't just classify it into one group.
Speak for yourself. If you don't recognize yourself as a European why would other Europeans recognize you?
Like I said before, a negro or a paki in London that speaks English, goes to an Anglican Church, fights for England and has an English name is NOT English and will never be.
You can have your multiracial/multicultural diversity all you want, we will fight it. Avarayr is a testament to that.
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Originally posted by TigranesWe Armenians do not differentiate Tata and Amr Diab. It's the same non-Armenian filth. Armenian folk music is reminiscent to Irish and Greeks folk music. The stuff that Diasporans call "kef" music and Armenians from ROA and CIS call "rabiz" music has nothing Armenian in it.
I don't blame you for what you are, it's not your fault you ended up in that God forsaken middle east because of the Genocide. However, I do blame you and others like you for not aspiring to embrace your Western culture dropping the oriental influences that was forced on to you.
Can you give me an example of real Armenian folk music?
I agree that Tata is not traditional Armenian music, but every culture has its different levels. No culture is based solely on classical music and poetry. You need a little of everything, even if some parts of it may be "unorthodox". And once again, this does not apply only to Armenians.
Also, the "oriental influences" of which you speak are not present only in the diaspora. You can see a lot of it in Armenia itself. The people's hospitality, the different traditions and the more-laid back attitude (as opposed to the colder and more production-oriented Western mentality) has not been imposed on anybody. It is a part of our culture that has been there for a loooong time, which can also be found in Middle Eastern traditions aaaand Eastern or Mediteranean Europe (such as Greece, yevalyn).
So once again, Armenia finds itself at a crossroads.
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Originally posted by TigranesSpeak for yourself. If you don't recognize yourself as a European why would other Europeans recognize you?
Like I said before, a negro or a paki in London that speaks English, goes to an Anglican Church, fights for England and has an English name is NOT English and will never be.
You can have your multiracial/multicultural diversity all you want, we will fight it. Avarayr is a testament to that.
Armenians are spread all over the world and don't have any other choice but to incorporate some of that country's beliefs. Your saying that Armenians in middle east aren't Armenian anymore? They probably have more Armenian pride then some Armenians living in Armenia. And Armenian culture today( the one where mostly people call European), etc...is 70% or even more influenced by the former USSR, not by Europe...hell, even Kazaghstan has similar housing, streets, beliefs, etc...all transplated by USSR. I'm pretty sure the pre-USSR Armenia would of had more influences from those middle eastern countries. by the way, I got nothing against USSR, I'm actually thankful of the it cause if it wasn't for them, there probably wouldn't be Armenia today.Last edited by MadHandle; 11-28-2004, 04:33 PM.
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