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  • #41
    Goey, you are an arse.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Hayq
      Goey, you are an arse.
      HAHA dude chillix. I wasnt making fun of you....if u dont like my comment tough..but stop justifying yourself.

      BTW read my signature I do hope you realize I was messing with you..omgosshh ppplllllllll.............
      Last edited by XxgoeyxX; 11-28-2004, 02:27 PM.
      You can't hold a man down without staying down with him.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Hayq
        Goey, you are an arse.
        If you continue with your stupid comments, I'll have to ban you.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by !EEK
          If you continue with your stupid comments, I'll have to ban you.
          No EEk dont ban him........... he is cool. It was just a missunderstanding.
          You can't hold a man down without staying down with him.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by XxgoeyxX
            No EEk dont ban him........... he is cool. It was just a missunderstanding.
            You are right, we don't ban stupidity here..

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            • #46
              How are Armenians gonna be European when Europe doesn't even recognize you...like I said Armenia is just not all European...I lived there enough to experiece a lot of things, traditions, way of living, etc...and I can tell you its a mixture of European, middle eastern,etc...Theres nothing wrong with diversity, you can't just classify it into one group.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by MadHandle
                How are Armenians gonna be European when Europe doesn't even recognize you...like I said Armenia is just not all European...I lived there enough to experiece a lot of things, traditions, way of living, etc...and I can tell you its a mixture of European, middle eastern,etc...Theres nothing wrong with diversity, you can't just classify it into one group.

                Speak for yourself. If you don't recognize yourself as a European why would other Europeans recognize you?
                Like I said before, a negro or a paki in London that speaks English, goes to an Anglican Church, fights for England and has an English name is NOT English and will never be.
                You can have your multiracial/multicultural diversity all you want, we will fight it. Avarayr is a testament to that.

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                • #48
                  Armenians should just take this oppurtunity of Independence to restrengthen their culture, and even discover new things that we can adopt into our culture. Which I beleive we're doing. It's only been about 10 or 15 yrs since we've become independent. So just give it time.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Tigranes
                    We Armenians do not differentiate Tata and Amr Diab. It's the same non-Armenian filth. Armenian folk music is reminiscent to Irish and Greeks folk music. The stuff that Diasporans call "kef" music and Armenians from ROA and CIS call "rabiz" music has nothing Armenian in it.

                    I don't blame you for what you are, it's not your fault you ended up in that God forsaken middle east because of the Genocide. However, I do blame you and others like you for not aspiring to embrace your Western culture dropping the oriental influences that was forced on to you.
                    And who, may I ask, has bestowed upon you this right and responsibility to judge who or what is Armenian enough? Is it the World Council of Superior Armenians?

                    Can you give me an example of real Armenian folk music?

                    I agree that Tata is not traditional Armenian music, but every culture has its different levels. No culture is based solely on classical music and poetry. You need a little of everything, even if some parts of it may be "unorthodox". And once again, this does not apply only to Armenians.

                    Also, the "oriental influences" of which you speak are not present only in the diaspora. You can see a lot of it in Armenia itself. The people's hospitality, the different traditions and the more-laid back attitude (as opposed to the colder and more production-oriented Western mentality) has not been imposed on anybody. It is a part of our culture that has been there for a loooong time, which can also be found in Middle Eastern traditions aaaand Eastern or Mediteranean Europe (such as Greece, yevalyn).

                    So once again, Armenia finds itself at a crossroads.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Tigranes
                      Speak for yourself. If you don't recognize yourself as a European why would other Europeans recognize you?
                      Like I said before, a negro or a paki in London that speaks English, goes to an Anglican Church, fights for England and has an English name is NOT English and will never be.
                      You can have your multiracial/multicultural diversity all you want, we will fight it. Avarayr is a testament to that.
                      You said that if I don't recognize myself as Eurpean then Europeans shouldn't recognize me either and then you said that a British citizen( "a paki or a negro") does adopts European beliefs and in return Britain or Europe doesn't recognize them anyway.....some irony for you. Just accept it...its not historical times anymore.

                      Armenians are spread all over the world and don't have any other choice but to incorporate some of that country's beliefs. Your saying that Armenians in middle east aren't Armenian anymore? They probably have more Armenian pride then some Armenians living in Armenia. And Armenian culture today( the one where mostly people call European), etc...is 70% or even more influenced by the former USSR, not by Europe...hell, even Kazaghstan has similar housing, streets, beliefs, etc...all transplated by USSR. I'm pretty sure the pre-USSR Armenia would of had more influences from those middle eastern countries. by the way, I got nothing against USSR, I'm actually thankful of the it cause if it wasn't for them, there probably wouldn't be Armenia today.
                      Last edited by MadHandle; 11-28-2004, 04:33 PM.

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