Turkish penal code: say Armenian Genocide is true --> go to jail

[Otto]

i was just trying to say same things... from a different perspective..so lets say we have our own faults and there are people (in and out) using those faults to gain advantages...i think we can agree on that...by the way it was SUSURLUK incident you were talking about...and yes inner corruption makes us weak against anything and our politicians using this weakness and saying it is justbecause of our enemies... we agree on that... actually there is not much we dont agree...i just objected that you were talking like there is no any enemy other then us... so its cleared then...
i had a kurdish 3rd mate onboard sometime ago and he said that " Atatürk promised us some land if you help Turks in indepence war" and i said " he was just fooling you and i think he had in mind to terminate you as it happend to some others" .. i am not that unaware as you think by the way...

[Sip]

Turkey should be its own continent. That way, we can clearly say what the crappiest continent on Earth is.

[Otto]

we can make Anatolia a continent.i like that idea too... just like imaginary continent of europa... what a bull's hit...

[winoman]

i was just trying to say same things... from a different perspective..so lets say we have our own faults and there are people (in and out) using those faults to gain advantages...i think we can agree on that...by the way it was SUSURLUK incident you were talking about...and yes inner corruption makes us weak against anything and our politicians using this weakness and saying it is justbecause of our enemies... we agree on that... actually there is not much we dont agree...i just objected that you were talking like there is no any enemy other then us... so its cleared then...
i had a kurdish 3rd mate onboard sometime ago and he said that " Atatürk promised us some land if you help Turks in indepence war" and i said " he was just fooling you and i think he had in mind to terminate you as it happend to some others" .. i am not that unaware as you think by the way...

hm well Ok then - perhaps we do agree - though I am not totally convinced. I will acknowldge thoguh that you certainly are nto the first Turks that I have had discussions with along these lines who was very aware of the history anf the corruption...I think Atraturk promissed the Kurds many things he never intended to deliver on and in fact intended quite clearly to betray them on (from their perspective). I still see a very distinct trend among (many/most?) Turks to deflect blame to others. Ottoman EMpire was struggling - it was the foreigners and minoritees fault. Turks and Armenains were killed - Armenians fault. Kurds killed - Kurds fault. Turkish ecomomy struggling - Europeans fault - etc. I think its long past time for Turks to accept some of their misteps - then perhaps the world would be more willing to give them some credit as well...

[Otto]

try telling those to us... instead of working hard we sit and wonder why

[bell-the-cat]

just like imaginary continent of europa... what a bull's hit...

Clever!



Though what princess gave her name to "nat-hole-ia"?

[Otto]

a-nut-hole-ia

[bookmaker]

Re: Turkish penal code: say Armenian Genocide is true --> go to jail

Yes i was waiting to see what the reforms would be in the reforms of the new Turkish Penal Code.Nothing was changed on the Armenian issue.I think it is written in their constitution that you are not alowed to question Ataturk , or you will be considered a traitor.And you know many of their journalists were lead to prison because ''they insulted Ataturk''.
Apparently nothing is changed.

hi!red brigate,I want to know where you live?I think you must know that turkey never perpetrated genocide against armenians,I think you must take this issue easy,because armenia is very unmodern,underdeveloped,and even your people in yerevan can not read newspaper at nights at home,armenia has sporadic electric connection,and because of border embargo by turkey and azernaycan.and even armenia has no land connection,only by means of georgia and iran.turkey doesnt need armenia,because turkey is very powerful country and easily can affect world politics in this region with russia.and turkey has very threatening and long-standing army.and you must grin and bear turkish entity.I think armenia must retreat from occupied regions(karabag)or else you will die of hungry!!!!.dont be furious at me,we must discuss this topic objectively.and azerbaycan overtook armenia in terms of economy and military aspect.and easily you can compare yerevan with baku,you will see the difference.I visited baku.and other than you will surprise very much,but I dont want armenian soldiers leave karabag,because I dont want any instibility in this region.but do you think that armenian side will make comprimise?at the same time,armenian foreign minister and his azeri counterpart is to meet in london,after this meeting prime ministers is to meet.I think armenian people musnt agree with azeri side,bec.you must relinguish some soils.I dont want it,because Im armenian origin boy and my family too,,,but we live in turkey.how about?will they agree about this problem?I want your comments!!! see you....

[TomServo]

Re: Turkish penal code: say Armenian Genocide is true --> go to jail

Yay for reviving old threads.

Boo for spewing out the same old Turkish garbage.

[ace]

Re: Turkish penal code: say Armenian Genocide is true --> go to jail

hi!red brigate,I want to know where you live?I think you must know that turkey never perpetrated genocide against armenians,I think you must take this issue easy,because armenia is very unmodern,underdeveloped,and even your people in yerevan can not read newspaper at nights at home,armenia has sporadic electric connection,and because of border embargo by turkey and azernaycan.and even armenia has no land connection,only by means of georgia and iran.turkey doesnt need armenia,because turkey is very powerful country and easily can affect world politics in this region with russia.and turkey has very threatening and long-standing army.and you must grin and bear turkish entity.I think armenia must retreat from occupied regions(karabag)or else you will die of hungry!!!!.dont be furious at me,we must discuss this topic objectively.and azerbaycan overtook armenia in terms of economy and military aspect.and easily you can compare yerevan with baku,you will see the difference.I visited baku.and other than you will surprise very much,but I dont want armenian soldiers leave karabag,because I dont want any instibility in this region.but do you think that armenian side will make comprimise?at the same time,armenian foreign minister and his azeri counterpart is to meet in london,after this meeting prime ministers is to meet.I think armenian people musnt agree with azeri side,bec.you must relinguish some soils.I dont want it,because Im armenian origin boy and my family too,,,but we live in turkey.how about?will they agree about this problem?I want your comments!!! see you....

haha. not true. we live just fine.