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    Armenian White Nationalism

    May I ask, why are there recently more Armenians in white nationalist organizations, or want to be part of such ideology?

    Is it because after 9/11 and want to "fit in"? Or is it because they moved on from the Armenian Cause and onto a racist Odar's cause?

    I don't understand what goes on in some Armenians' heads.

    Even if you Google the keywords "white nationalist" or nationalism you get pictures of the Armenian military
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    Re: Armenian White Nationalism

    Originally posted by imhye
    a racist Odar's cause?
    The very use of that word makes you a racist.
    Plenipotentiary meow!

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      Re: Armenian White Nationalism

      Hmmm, I don't see how the word odar makes me a racist. It means foreign. As in non-Armenian.

      The word racism, according to Dictionary.com, means, "The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others."

      I never said Armenians are superior to foreign people.

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        Re: Armenian White Nationalism

        Originally posted by imhye
        I never said Armenians are superior to foreign people.
        But they are.

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          Re: Armenian White Nationalism

          Originally posted by One-Way
          But they are.
          I was about to say that. Thanks.
          Nothing wrong with thinking your people are the best. It's when people have a deep-sitted inferiority complex that they act in barbaric ways towards those that are weaker to alleviate this complex.
          Last edited by karoaper; 04-09-2006, 07:09 PM.

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            Re: Armenian White Nationalism

            Originally posted by karoaper
            I was about to say that. Thanks.
            Nothing wrong with thinking your people are the best. It's when people have a deep-sitted inferiority complex that they act in barbaric ways towards those that are weaker to alleviate this complex.
            I agree with the above. However, a healthy dose of introspection is a necessity if the Armenian is to continue on the right track. Without introspection and self improvement, we would be no better than turks whose attaturk induced blind nationalism keeps them in the dregs of humanity.

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              Re: Armenian White Nationalism

              Originally posted by crusader1492
              I agree with the above. However, a healthy dose of introspection is a necessity if the Armenian is to continue on the right track. Without introspection and self improvement, we would be no better than turks whose attaturk induced blind nationalism keeps them in the dregs of humanity.

              No of course I didn't mean to suggest we're perfect. That's the point, noone is. We must indeed be fierce in our critique of our shortcomings. Still, any Armenian has truelly many many reasons for thinking the absolute highest of his nation.

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                Re: Armenian White Nationalism

                By the way, I believe the Armenians who subscribe to White Nationalist ideology are misguided in their notion of patriotism and in their response to continuous attacks that Armenia bore at the hands of foreign oppresors. Their foolishness is shown in some of their crazy conspiracy theories. In fact the majority are kids.

                I believe though that their heart is in the right place. Well, they love their nation and their people. That, for me anyways, is enough to accept them. I believe today at least, we cannot afford not to.

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                  Re: Armenian White Nationalism

                  Originally posted by karoaper
                  By the way, I believe the Armenians who subscribe to White Nationalist ideology are misguided in their notion of patriotism and in their response to continuous attacks that Armenia bore at the hands of foreign oppresors. Their foolishness is shown in some of their crazy conspiracy theories. In fact the majority are kids.

                  I believe though that their heart is in the right place. Well, they love their nation and their people. That, for me anyways, is enough to accept them. I believe today at least, we cannot afford not to.
                  Well said.
                  Also, I think the original poster need to put this nonsense into perspective. In short, white nationalism among Armenian is so small that it is essencially non-existant. Armenians are more likely to be victims of white nationalist culture as opposed to being part of it.
                  For example, consider this exerp from this link: http://www.originaldissent.com/forum...p/t-14113.html

                  Rafael Arkelov, a 47-old Armenian singer who has spent all his life living in Moscow and for whom Russian is his first language, has experienced it all.

                  He was in a grocery store buying a chocolate bar and a bottle of champagne to visit his friends for a New Year's celebration when a man asked him for some change. After Arkelov refused to give him money, he saw the man approach two youths with shaved heads whom he identified as skinheads standing nearby and whispered something. Several minutes later, after Arkelov walked out of the store, he was jumped from behind.

                  "They punched me on my eyes, my face, and all of a sudden I couldn't see anymore. Then I collapsed to the ground and they started beating me with their feet," Arkelov recalled. "If it weren't for a woman across the street who screamed 'What are you doing?', if it weren't for this scream of hers, I think they would have beaten me to death."

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                    Re: Armenian White Nationalism

                    Originally posted by crusader1492
                    Well said.
                    Also, I think the original poster need to put this nonsense into perspective. In short, white nationalism among Armenian is so small that it is essencially non-existant. Armenians are more likely to be victims of white nationalist culture as opposed to being part of it.
                    For example, consider this exerp from this link: http://www.originaldissent.com/forum...p/t-14113.html

                    Rafael Arkelov, a 47-old Armenian singer who has spent all his life living in Moscow and for whom Russian is his first language, has experienced it all.

                    He was in a grocery store buying a chocolate bar and a bottle of champagne to visit his friends for a New Year's celebration when a man asked him for some change. After Arkelov refused to give him money, he saw the man approach two youths with shaved heads whom he identified as skinheads standing nearby and whispered something. Several minutes later, after Arkelov walked out of the store, he was jumped from behind.

                    "They punched me on my eyes, my face, and all of a sudden I couldn't see anymore. Then I collapsed to the ground and they started beating me with their feet," Arkelov recalled. "If it weren't for a woman across the street who screamed 'What are you doing?', if it weren't for this scream of hers, I think they would have beaten me to death."
                    Yep. Bald head and utter ignorance go hand in hand. I've lived in Moscow a year, I can tell you some stories. The funny thing though is that Russians are a little fearful of people from Caucasus. They think we're crazy and will stab them in a blink of an eye. This fear has saved me many times from a sure asskicking in Moscow.

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