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September is the Cruelest Month of All: The Destruction of Smyrna, 1922.

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  • #31
    Originally posted by TurQ
    RUDO

    Those bad planned buildings dated no longer than 30 years, parts of Izmir turned to an unplanned urban nightmare in last 30 years. It wasnt like that in 60s and before.
    I dont understand your rationale about building bad buildings regarding to 1922 events and yet the intentions of Greek state and Brit empire of those times so evident..
    But I know that konaks were destroyed with purpose by Turks(I have explained the reason for it) not by fire of Greek Army.Look at İzmir(Smyrna)now,and say who made Smyrna to İzmir?

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    • #32
      And I think Bad-planned buildings are not the only reason of İzmir(Smyrna)'s ugliness now.The main reason is Turks destruction on Minorities' buildings.Because when they see a builiding not belonging them,they don't protect them in addition they destroy them.(usually).They say usually 'These aren't ours so they aren't important'.I always hear this sentence.
      And if you visit İzmir,you will see a lot of ruined konaks which become homeless people's home.

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      • #33
        RUDO
        Just take a visit to the historic buildings that were built by Turks.
        Please tell me how many of them are taken care of properly and in good condition,or what percentage left.
        Take a visit in a sunny Izmir springday sometime next month.
        I know such historic buildings in Istanbul, that historic Istanbul houses are in terrible condition. Just the very large and important ones are in good condition.

        Would you see any historic homes kept in Uskudar? Or how many? Go to Kadikoy. I think only cengelkoy is kind of in better conditions, but the rest is horrible. Around 100 historic buildings including small caravansaries and small mosques, totally disappeared in Eminonu Peninsula. This is right next door of Topkapi Palace.

        Please do me a favor and takea look at those historic houses, I mean the ones that are still standing! Maybe 90% of such houses are gone!
        Look at the Suleymaniye houses, they were supposed to be under protection, please take a look at those when you go to Istanbul.

        YOu miss the point that those people Turks and Greeks lived togather in Izmir for centuries and nothing had happened until the day they tried to occupy Anatolia. Thats the British strategy to saw seeds of hatred in the lands that they want to control. Thats what happened. You miss the bigger picture.

        Originally posted by RUDO
        And I think Bad-planned buildings are not the only reason of İzmir(Smyrna)'s ugliness now.The main reason is Turks destruction on Minorities' buildings.Because when they see a builiding not belonging them,they don't protect them in addition they destroy them.(usually).They say usually 'These aren't ours so they aren't important'.I always hear this sentence.
        And if you visit İzmir,you will see a lot of ruined konaks which become homeless people's home.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by TurQ
          RUDO
          Just take a visit to the historic buildings that were built by Turks.
          Please tell me how many of them are taken care of properly and in good condition,or what percentage left.
          Take a visit in a sunny Izmir springday sometime next month.
          I know such historic buildings in Istanbul, that historic Istanbul houses are in terrible condition. Just the very large and important ones are in good condition.

          Would you see any historic homes kept in Uskudar? Or how many? Go to Kadikoy. I think only cengelkoy is kind of in better conditions, but the rest is horrible. Around 100 historic buildings including small caravansaries and small mosques, totally disappeared in Eminonu Peninsula. This is right next door of Topkapi Palace.

          Please do me a favor and takea look at those historic houses, I mean the ones that are still standing! Maybe 90% of such houses are gone!
          Look at the Suleymaniye houses, they were supposed to be under protection, please take a look at those when you go to Istanbul.

          YOu miss the point that those people Turks and Greeks lived togather in Izmir for centuries and nothing had happened until the day they tried to occupy Anatolia. Thats the British strategy to saw seeds of hatred in the lands that they want to control. Thats what happened. You miss the bigger picture.
          You are right in that Turks don't care even their own historic buildings.
          But despite of war,Turks shouldn't have devastate Smyrna?

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          • #35
            Yesterday Saint Polycarpe Church in Smyrna was attacked by a university student.He throwed a molotov xxxxtail and started a fire.But fortunately it was extinguished.Saint Polycarpe is the oldest church in Smyrna.

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            • #36
              The Destruction and Genocide Of Smyrna

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              Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

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