Re: Hitler and the Armenian Genocide
Dude, chill, I told you, we don't have to base everything on Hitler. And there IS evidence my feline friend that Hitler spoke those words. Who are you kidding? Stop making every discussion messy.
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Re: Hitler and the Armenian Genocide
Originally posted by Anoush View PostIt is sounds to me that you are a denialist. If thats the case then what are you doing in here? Huh?
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Re: Hitler and the Armenian Genocide
We ask the same question Anoush jan! Welcome to the club.
And I agree, basing the AG solely on what Hitler said is wrong (although there is a fair amount of evidence). There is no reason to that because the evidence pours like rain. Who needs Hitler when you've got an entire interview from Ataturk?
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Re: Hitler and the Armenian Genocide
Originally posted by bell-the-cat View PostHe never said it. It's just one of those soundbite-sized myths that Armenians come up with as a way of avoiding having to put some effort into explaining the real evidence.
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Re: Hitler and the Armenian Genocide
Originally posted by bell-the-cat View PostHe never said it. It's just one of those soundbite-sized myths that Armenians come up with as a way of avoiding having to put some effort into explaining the real evidence.
Regardless, as an emotional message to Armenians, associating the AG with what Hitler did to the xxxs, it does not appeal to me.Last edited by jgk3; 02-06-2009, 09:25 PM.
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Re: Hitler and the Armenian Genocide
Originally posted by Anonymouse View PostWhat evidence is there that Hitler made this quote? To my knowledge, the evidence is sparse and in fact, non-existence. Armenians need to stop relying on appeals to emotion and linking with the xxxish holocaust to make a point by bringing up this discredited Hitler quote and instead focus on the actual and proper evidence.
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Re: Hitler and the Armenian Genocide
The evidence for it is mentioned in the book, there is quite a bit of evidence, check out the book to see what I mean, also it is widely known that Hitler had Tatar and Azeri SS units, many of them in fact and he did serve in the military in WW1, just saying
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Re: Hitler and the Armenian Genocide
What evidence is there that Hitler made this quote? To my knowledge, the evidence is sparse and in fact, non-existence. Armenians need to stop relying on appeals to emotion and linking with the xxxish holocaust to make a point by bringing up this discredited Hitler quote and instead focus on the actual and proper evidence.
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Hitler and the Armenian Genocide
Hitler and the Armenian Genocide
In August 1939, Hitler justified his plan to destroy Poland and create a new order by asking, "Who remembers now the extermination of the Armenians?" Hitler's rhetorical question acquired an ominous significance with the extermination of xxxs and Gypsies during the Second World War. Many scholars have argued that the absence of justice in the case of the Young Turk government, guilty of crimes against the Armenian people during the First World War, led Hitler to believe he would not be held responsible for his own crime against humanity. This link between the two major genocides of the century has led scholars to focus more on the historical and political significance of the Armenian or "forgotten" genocide.
In the politically charged atmosphere surrounding the study of genocide, there have also been renewed doubts on the authenticity of the document where Hitler's statement was recorded. In 1985 the controversy reached its height in the pages of The New York Times and other major newspapers.
This essay is the most intensive research undertaken to date on Hitler's statement to his generals. Through meticulous research, Dr Bardakjian has traced the likely source of the document and the circumstances of is publication. The author has compared the three extant versions of the document and explored the reasons why the prosecution at the Nuremberg Tribunal did not enter this particular version as evidence, thus giving rise to the renewed doubts.
The scope of the research includes a little known antecedent as well as other evidence which indicates that Hitler was aware of the Armenian genocide and used this knowledge to his advantage before and during the Second World War.
The appendices contain copies of the relevant documents, allowing the reader to make his/her judgment on the authenticity of this intriguing piece of historical evidence.
Kevork B. Bardakjian is lecturer on Armenian and bibliographer at Harvard University. He has studied at Yerevan State University and received his D. Phil. from Oxford University. Dr. Bardakjian lectures on Armenian culture and literature and on the impact of the Armenian genocide.
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