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  • #21
    Don't leave Nemesis, it won't be the same without you

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    • #22
      So that ends up being the Turkish defense, foul language? Wow, now they are showing us they really have NO case whatsoever...

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      • #23
        Originally posted by kroisos
        I xxxx you orospu evlatlari sizi!
        you say somewhere else you are 50% greek?

        you are a disgrace to hellenes everywhere. I cast you out, people should no longer consider you a greek.

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        • #24
          On another note I'm not an Armenian however I know that most Turks think that u guys will demand land and money after and if they accept it (this is a paranoia fed by the government to their people) I mean u guys get exposed to all fractions extremists, moderates and that's why I wanna hear your opinion .Would an apology suffice?

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          • #25
            Originally posted by NikosSampson
            you say somewhere else you are 50% greek?

            you are a disgrace to hellenes everywhere. I cast you out, people should no longer consider you a greek.
            Most Turks are Greeks and Armenians if they go back few generations my friend but brainwashing is an effective tool.
            Actually their most fanatical and braveheart units in Ottoman military were the " yeniceri" which were christian kids adopted and raised by strict "muslim" rules ...it has always been a good strategy

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            • #26
              Originally posted by nemesis
              Most Turks are Greeks and Armenians if they go back few generations my friend but brainwashing is an effective tool.
              Actually their most fanatical and braveheart units in Ottoman military were the " yeniceri" which were christian kids adopted and raised by strict "muslim" rules ...it has always been a good strategy
              And they moan about missionaries giving out food and bibles?

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              • #27
                Originally posted by nemesis
                hey man no welcome for me ...I'm leaving the forum I'm upset now
                You didn't make an introductory thread, so I didn't know where to welcome you.
                Welcome nemesis.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Tongue
                  You didn't make an introductory thread, so I didn't know where to welcome you.
                  Welcome nemesis.
                  np I was teasing u...good site how many members do u have also ...U think u could answer my question above regarding Armenian demands

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                  • #29
                    Where is peace now?

                    Hi everybody,

                    I am a Turkish citizen who still has armenian friends living in Turkey as Turkish citizens. I must confess I love them very much and they do love me too. You know, there are different nations living in Turkey. I am a Turk.

                    According to me, whatever happened in the past, it was about Ottoman Empire. Ottoman is the name of a family and that empire was not a nationalist state so no one can say that today's Turkish Citizens'history is coming from Ottoman Empire.

                    Ottomans were not my ancestors. They were not ancestors of Kurds, Arabs, Armenians or Jews living in today's Turkey. Ottoman Emperor was just a part of the history of these lands.

                    If you say that Turkish government must recognize Armenian Genocide, it means that all nations living in Turkey will recognize it, also my armenian friends who are Turkish Citizens.

                    The thing what happened in the past was about a state which is no longer existing. As a turkish citizen I am sure my grandfathers did not kill any armenians, why do ı need to apologize for something that is not releated with me.

                    There are still armenians, jews, christians, kurds, arabs living in this country. Why do they have to apologize for something which they did not do?

                    If you ask today's turkish government to apologize or recognize something happened in the past, it means that people who are not releated with this issue, including armenian Turkish Citizens will apologize for it.

                    Now, am I a potential enemy for you just because I live in Turkey? Are you brave enough to love me? Be sure that I love you because at least you are a human and whatever happenned in the past, I did nothing to you and you did nothing to me. All of you are my human brothers and sisters.

                    Hate gets bigger when you hate. Love gets bigger when you love.

                    I want to ask something. I really do not know the answer and I want to learn. Some of the provinces in the USA and some countries on the world recognized Armenian Genocide. Did the present Armenia State, who suffered from genocide in the past, recognize the genocide against american indians by the USA?

                    Best wishes to all of you from a Human.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by human
                      Hi everybody,

                      I am a Turkish citizen who still has armenian friends living in Turkey as Turkish citizens. I must confess I love them very much and they do love me too. You know, there are different nations living in Turkey. I am a Turk.

                      According to me, whatever happened in the past, it was about Ottoman Empire. Ottoman is the name of a family and that empire was not a nationalist state so no one can say that today's Turkish Citizens'history is coming from Ottoman Empire.

                      Ottomans were not my ancestors. They were not ancestors of Kurds, Arabs, Armenians or Jews living in today's Turkey. Ottoman Emperor was just a part of the history of these lands.

                      If you say that Turkish government must recognize Armenian Genocide, it means that all nations living in Turkey will recognize it, also my armenian friends who are Turkish Citizens.

                      The thing what happened in the past was about a state which is no longer existing. As a turkish citizen I am sure my grandfathers did not kill any armenians, why do ı need to apologize for something that is not releated with me.

                      There are still armenians, jews, christians, kurds, arabs living in this country. Why do they have to apologize for something which they did not do?

                      If you ask today's turkish government to apologize or recognize something happened in the past, it means that people who are not releated with this issue, including armenian Turkish Citizens will apologize for it.

                      Now, am I a potential enemy for you just because I live in Turkey? Are you brave enough to love me? Be sure that I love you because at least you are a human and whatever happenned in the past, I did nothing to you and you did nothing to me. All of you are my human brothers and sisters.

                      Hate gets bigger when you hate. Love gets bigger when you love.

                      I want to ask something. I really do not know the answer and I want to learn. Some of the provinces in the USA and some countries on the world recognized Armenian Genocide. Did the present Armenia State, who suffered from genocide in the past, recognize the genocide against american indians by the USA?

                      Best wishes to all of you from a Human.

                      Dear Mister or Misses!

                      I am happy to hear comments like this. I must say that I just don`t like to have turkish people as my friends because they behave very stupid, not all, but the most. But Ì know even more armenians living here behaving the same way. I like your thought about the peace between our cultures!

                      And as you, I like to go over this things with intelligent arguments.
                      But in your last sentence you ask if the armenians recognize the genocide against american indians - good question, here is the answer:

                      1. Never compare genocides or wars with each other! They sound the same but they are always different.
                      2. Who says we (the armenians) don`t recognize it??????
                      It is actually not our topic but when I heard of it in school in history class I got very, very upset about the former americans and also about the slave trade in the early USA. But no one denies it like the turkish government denies the armenian genocide or says that the death people where less than 1.5 million!
                      3. Americans started to help the native americans as soon as they could. I don`t say that everything has worked out fine but everybody knows about the indian genocide. Really everyone.
                      4. This is the most important argument: I think you might be upset about what I wrote before but please read this: I don`t care if any politiciants recognize it or not.I want the people to have the truth inside of their brain and the conscience in their hearts so something like this can never ever happen again. I don`t only mean turkish people but all people!!!

                      And don`t forget, the armenian people who call themsleves turkish citizens are only turkish on their papers. So why will they have to recognize the genocide on their own people???

                      But do you know what? I would like to stay in touch with you, because you don`t sound dumb and I hope I don`t sound silly for you!
                      Write to me whenever you like about (almost) whatever you like. Maybe we can make up friends one day.

                      The other human.

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