The next step

[Tongue]

On another note I'm not an Armenian however I know that most Turks think that u guys will demand land and money after and if they accept it (this is a paranoia fed by the government to their people) I mean u guys get exposed to all fractions extremists, moderates and that's why I wanna hear your opinion .Would an apology suffice?

That's a good question. It depends on who you ask I guess. Some say a moral compensation, an apology, is good enough. Including the president Robert Kocharyan. On the other hand, we have the Dashnak party who believes in material compensation. I personally think they need to compensate, monetary or material, I don't know. It only makes it fair, don't you think? However, I formost, want a recognition.

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That's a good question. It depends on who you ask I guess. Some say a moral compensation, an apology, is good enough. Including the president Robert Kocharyan. On the other hand, we have the Dashnak party who believes in material compensation. I personally think they need to compensate, monetary or material, I don't know. It only makes it fair, don't you think? However, I formost, want a recognition.

I mean u guys suffered a lot and clearly even an apology I'm sure will be a positive step but today monetary (to some extend maybe) but material (if u mean land) compensation would be utopic don't u agree

On another note "Kroissos" is cussing and clearly he's not here to carry a civilized conversation could u do something about it?

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I mean u guys suffered a lot and clearly even an apology I'm sure will be a positive step but today monetary (to some extend maybe) but material (if u mean land) compensation would be utopic don't u agree

On another note "Kroissos" is cussing and clearly he's not here to carry a civilized conversation could u do something about it?

I completely agree. It’s not realistic to want material compensation, there is no way we’re getting any of our lands back. However, I would like monetary compensation. It’s only fair, don’t you think? Look at the Jews… Germany is still paying holocaust survivors reparation payments. So why is this any different?

About Kroissos, I tried editing some of his posts. I’ll warn him now… next time he’ll be banned.

[imported_nemesis]

I completely agree. It’s not realistic to want material compensation, there is no way we’re getting any of our lands back. However, I would like monetary compensation. It’s only fair, don’t you think? Look at the Jews… Germany is still paying holocaust survivors reparation payments. So why is this any different?

About Kroissos, I tried editing some of his posts. I’ll warn him now… next time he’ll be banned.

True true...just wanted to get your point of view

Actually I told these xxxos that Ataturk was one of the first ones to recognize the massacres and they were like just give us one example.so I posted an article published by a well known Turkish historian who proves that Ataturk in 1926 in an interview with an American journalist (upon asking him what the executions of some old regime believers meant at that time) tells him these people committed atrocities against our christian subjects in the past...clearly recently there are a lot of people in Turkey who know and want to discuss the truth but how do you change the minds of the majority who had been brought up with a denial?

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no need to say that people object to that article and say that it's been fabricated but he clearly demonstrates that it was authentic..and the cynical part is that the guy is a phd and a very Kemalist person and a patriot but unfortunately people like that are a minority in Turkey

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edit: no posts in turkish language.

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I know it's hard, but I think Turkey is about ready now... Lately, many Turkish people have spoken about having an Armenian grand parent from the genocide in their families. For example, the author, Fethiye Cetin. So I think the psychological readiness is there. Though, I don't think the government is ready to admit to it yet.

[imported_nemesis]

Yes definitely. Turkey is more ready than before , however political fractions naturally the army have still a big influence on politics. Also it's not an easy subject for common Turks , I mean the moral responsibility part. How can you cope when you find out that you've been lied to since the day u were born. Also clearly you need to find the right balance , extremism will not help as you might jeopardize the social life of the current Armenian minority in Turkey who despite some obstacles which all the minorities are faced with live in harmony and comfort

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I split the thread, it was getting off topic.

[imported_nemesis]

yes good idea ...Let's talk about the next step what do you guys thing how can the two people move on and reconcile their differences