Do you want to help Armenia?

[neutral]

Ok fair play you can Boycott them in that Armenian majority area.

'As for the Kebab, although those aren't made in Turkey, i still hope you choke on them. Get outa my face u punk.' Why hate? I thought Armenians were suppost to be civilized? That kebab shop owner in my area that I was refering to only has nice things to say about Armenians.

[Doberman]

well if i came on a little tough thats because you made a very offensive comment. I do not condone any softness towards the Turks. there may be good turks in this world, as there are good people in any nation, but the majority of turks are opposed to us, and along with their chronies, want our destruction. Furthermore, the turkish tongue is very sweet. they will say nice words, but in the end, they will screw you over without you knowing. and obviously we cannot make a difference in idaho or whatever, but where we can, we must.

Both Turkey and Azerbaijan today blockade armenia which is economically catastropic to armenia. perhaps its not going to make a huge difference, but by not purchasing turkish products, THATS ONE LESS DOLLAR THAT GOES TO FEED A TURKISH SOLDIER.

[elendil]

No doubt Armenians have a right to boycott our products since we isolate their countries from a fair share of trade by closing border. But hey

Both Turkey and Azerbaijan today blockade armenia which is economically catastropic to armenia. perhaps its not going to make a huge difference, but by not purchasing turkish products, THATS ONE LESS DOLLAR THAT GOES TO FEED A TURKISH SOLDIER.

Keep the border closed until they recognize our borders, armenia can not purchase weapons thus one less Turkish soldier to feed and thus get rid of much more than 1 dollar payroll-equipment ...

[Pantalaimon]

Turkey's economy isn't doing so hot either. Any ideas, elendil?

[elendil]

Well Turkey's economic growth was %10 last year. It will be around %7 this year I hear. If Iraq gains stability, it will be even better. (A slim hope though )
If Turkey can keep the peace within itself, Turkey has every potential to grow steadily. We have educated people, cheap work force and also a strong army to
keep our country safe. These are not attributes many countries in middle-east
can claim to posess. If we get in the EU, we will not have to worry this much, but if we dont we can still go on.

[neutral]

elendil do you think Turkey should join the European union?

If Turkey joins then surely wouldn't millions of Turks emigrate all across Europe. They can over populate some of smaller countries like Luxemburg, Malta, Lithuania, Lativa and Estonia.

Once Turkey over populates these countries then they might try and create some form Sharia governments and try and declare those areas with high Turkish populations as some sort of autonomous (or semi autonomous) regions or Turkish nationalists might start fighting in these countries for independent Turkish states across Europe. I mean its a way for Turkey to regain a Ottoman empire, isn't it?!

[elendil]

elendil do you think Turkey should join the European union?
If Turkey joins then surely wouldn't millions of Turks emigrate all across Europe. They can over populate some of smaller countries like Luxemburg, Malta, Lithuania, Lativa and Estonia.
Once Turkey over populates these countries then they might try and create some form Sharia governments and try and declare those areas with high Turkish populations as some sort of autonomous (or semi autonomous) regions or Turkish nationalists might start fighting in these countries for independent Turkish states across Europe. I mean its a way for Turkey to regain a Ottoman empire, isn't it?!

1-We ARE NOT EUROPEAN
2-We are POOR
3-We have a powerful military. (experienced also)
4- We are many(70-80 millions)
5-We have educated work power.
6-We have sources.
7-Everyone hates us(nearly)
8-We hate our neighbours.( Exception of Azeri and Greece recently)
9-We have deep problems(Kurdish issue, Armenian Genocide Claims, Cyprus)
10- We are lacist. Religion and state is seperated.
11- We are muslims, EU countries are not.
12-Ottoman Empire is over. Get over the paranoia everyone. Turkey is a Turkic state unlike the empire.
13-Our economy 14. greatest in the world. Turkey is growing fast for now. (we are still poor ofcourse)
So in the light of these facts of Turkey my answer would be I dont know....
My answer would depend on what EU will want from us in return. Since this membership is not born of love or common culture but rather mutual benefit which based on future military, energy, national politics of EU,Turkey.

Regarding your other question if we are pushing to the doors of Wien again.
Look people, Turkey by any means dont have any intention of dreaming new borders, or finding muslim states on soil of EU. There is a hhhhhhhuuuuuuuuggggggggeeeeeeeeee difference from a 100 years ago. The world has changed and so did we..... We are not coming with swords to hunt you. The challenge is economical and cultural. Emigration will not prove possible since EU will not allow Turkey free-roaming right for a 10 years more.

[neutral]

1-We ARE NOT EUROPEAN.
Why do you want to join the European Union then? I'm wandering why Europe (incl. my government) is going to even talk to you?

2-We are POOR.
If this enormous country with a high population that is poor is let into Europe then wouldn't it lower our standards and wouldn't it cost us Europeans Billions upon Billions of Pounds/Dollars to support Turkey.

10- We are lacist.
Are you admitting that all Turks are racist?

13-Our economy 14. greatest in the world. Turkey is growing fast for now. (we are still poor ofcourse).
I dont get what your 13th or 14th point is?
If your hinting that your Economy is the greatest in the World then your wrong.

[PS. I was only looking at the worse case scenario if were Turkey to join the EU they could potentially over populate many regions in Europe. I was just making sure there is no secret motive(hidden agenda) behind Turkey trying frantically to join the EU]

[elendil]

10- We are lacist.
Are you admitting that all Turks are racist?

Lacism is the understanding that seperates religion from goverment issues.

1-We ARE NOT EUROPEAN.
Why do you want to join the European Union then? I'm wandering why Europe (incl. my government) is going to even talk to you?

Money, the definiton of higher Turkish identity completely thus helping minority issues solve itself. Having an alternatvie against America. EU talks to us because it has to form new energy policies not to mention for the time being expect England, EU does not have a decent army to defend itself. These are the reasons.

13-Our economy 14. greatest in the world. Turkey is growing fast for now. (we are still poor ofcourse).
I dont get what your 13th or 14th point is?
If your hinting that your Economy is the greatest in the World then your wrong.

Did I say that our economy is the greatest in the world? Turkey is 14. compared to its size(economic) with the other countries of the world. Which is promising for the future...
2-We are POOR.

If this enormous country with a high population that is poor is let into Europe then wouldn't it lower our standards and wouldn't it cost us Europeans Billions upon Billions of Pounds/Dollars to support Turkey.

No, Turkey if there is no war within it or around it, can easily pull itself as we can see in current times.
I hope I could explain enough

[imported_Pierre]

Buy products that were made in Armenia.

Do you have some specific product? "Typical Armenian"?
I live in MiddleEurope and I've never saw any "Made in Armenia" sign.

Since I am a fan of your country, I would love to contribute