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  • #11
    Originally posted by kemal1915
    i have lots of armenian friends in izmir, istanbul and bilecik(the place where i live)and they don t have a claim like a genocide that is done by Turks.
    They do. They don't want to talk about it in your Turkish country. Using the term Genocide in public is a crime in Turkey. So it makes sense that they remain silent about it, doesn't it?

    My parents visited Turkey some 15+ years ago. They went to an Armenian church and they said there were a bunch of little kids running around in the back yard of the church and couldn't tell if they were Armenian or Turkish. Obviously they were Armenian, but they were all speaking Turkish. They had a conversation with a couple of their parents, and they said they themselves never learned Armenian because it was illegal after the genocide to speak Armenian and their parents were way too scared to speak the langugae or teach it to their children!! Sad, isn't it?

    Also, from what we've seem from you in this forum, I'm sure your friends are scared to even remember the 1915 when you're around.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by kemal1915
      one of them is our family friends his name is Dikran now he s in istanbul and he has a jevelery.i talked with him these topics and he said he dont want to say genocide.u dont need to believe that but thast true and also in istanbul kınalı island there are a lot of armenians and also they dont have a claim.arent they armenian?
      Given the current maturity of your third-world society I doubt if I was an Armenian in Istanbul I would want to use the word "Genocide" either when questioned by ignorant, nationalist, extremist Turks...

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      • #13
        Originally posted by kemal1915
        one of them is our family friends his name is Dikran now he s in istanbul and he has a jevelery.i talked with him these topics and he said he dont want to say genocide.u dont need to believe that but thast true and also in istanbul kınalı island there are a lot of armenians and also they dont have a claim.arent they armenian?
        Kemal, I'm an Armenian from Istanbul, and I'm telling you IT WAS GENOCIDE! Anladin mi? Istersen Turkce soyliyeyim sana: SOYKIRIM! Bundan daha basit bir sey olamaz.

        What do you expect Armenians living in Turkey to say? Look at Hrant Dink, a Turkish Armenian. He didn't even say anything about the G word, and he still got prosecuted and convicted of the crime of insulting the Turkish people. I have lots of Turkish Armenian friends and relatives who want to just get on with their lives and forget about these issues, but when you ask them what they really think it was, they say, of course it was a Genocide, we're not stupid. But they'd rather let bygones be bygones and live their happy lives without getting hastled. Is that so hard to understand.

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        • #14
          Given the current maturity of your third-world society
          Make it second by the way. At the beggining of this year as far as I know Turkey has been rated second-world country.

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          • #15
            Maybe economically,But culturally no
            thats just like puting parfume on a pig (no offence)
            "All truth passes through three stages:
            First, it is ridiculed;
            Second, it is violently opposed; and
            Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

            Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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            • #16
              Originally posted by elendil
              Make it second by the way. At the beggining of this year as far as I know Turkey has been rated second-world country.
              I was referring to the mentality of Turkish society which is to this day, third-world at best...

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Hovik
                Given the current maturity of your third-world society I doubt if I was an Armenian in Istanbul I would want to use the word "Genocide" either when questioned by ignorant, nationalist, extremist Turks...
                I hope you are not implying that all Turks are ignorant, nationalist and extremists???
                www.armenian-genocide.org

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by neutral
                  I hope you are not implying that all Turks are ignorant, nationalist and extremists???
                  Obviously NOT.

                  Reread what he said, you'll know that. "When questioned by ....." doesn't equal "All Turks are ..... ", right ?!

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