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  • Haykakan
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    Originally posted by ashot24 View Post
    Turkey and Azerbaijan were born out of massacres, genocide, and crimes...asking for recognition or punishment of those crimes is immediately putting to doubt the national identity and history of those countries, that's why their so hurt when someone tells the truth.
    Good analyses there, i concur.

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  • ashot24
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    Originally posted by hipeter924 View Post
    Every nation has nationalists, internationalists, politically apathetic and people who love their country but still like and love others. But the issue is how far do they go? Britain, America, Greece and Armenia, Swiss admit their mistakes or at the very least not hound people who do, but Turkey and Azerbajian never do and even kill or imprison people when they speak the dirty truth.
    Turkey and Azerbaijan were born out of massacres, genocide, and crimes...asking for recognition or punishment of those crimes is immediately putting to doubt the national identity and history of those countries, that's why their so hurt when someone tells the truth.

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  • hipeter924
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    Originally posted by Jos View Post
    I don't see anything unique. Virtually all nations and peoples see themselves as a cut above everyone else, including your own. Americans, Brits, Japanese, Greeks, Armenians, Swiss .... each believe their own nationality to be the best invention since sliced bread. Narcissism and arrogance have no national boundaries. All diminish their faults and errors if they can get away with it. Nothing new here.
    Every nation has nationalists, internationalists, politically apathetic and people who love their country but still like and love others. But the issue is how far do they go? Britain, America, Greece and Armenia, Swiss admit their mistakes or at the very least not hound people who do, but Turkey and Azerbajian never do and even kill or imprison people when they speak the dirty truth.

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  • Haykakan
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    Originally posted by Jos View Post
    I don't see anything unique. Virtually all nations and peoples see themselves as a cut above everyone else, including your own. Americans, Brits, Japanese, Greeks, Armenians, Swiss .... each believe their own nationality to be the best invention since sliced bread. Narcissism and arrogance have no national boundaries. All diminish their faults and errors if they can get away with it. Nothing new here.
    Not all nations have laws which allow you to be thrown in jail for years simply because you criticized the government, not all nations completely misinform their own people about their own history, not all nations cutt the throats of helpless priests and nunns, not all nations assasinate repoters for talking about history, NOT ALL NATIONS COMMIT GENOCIDE!

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  • Haykakan
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    Originally posted by Joseph View Post
    This epitomizes the Turk in their own minds; everything is always everyone else's faults, Turks cannot ever dream of genocide, muslims are incapable of it, empires are bad except theirs, etc:


    http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/co...be-a-turk.html
    I left a reply to that article but something tells me it wont be posted

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  • Jos
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    Originally posted by Joseph View Post
    This epitomizes the Turk in their own minds; everything is always everyone else's faults, Turks cannot ever dream of genocide, muslims are incapable of it, empires are bad except theirs, etc:


    http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/co...be-a-turk.html
    I don't see anything unique. Virtually all nations and peoples see themselves as a cut above everyone else, including your own. Americans, Brits, Japanese, Greeks, Armenians, Swiss .... each believe their own nationality to be the best invention since sliced bread. Narcissism and arrogance have no national boundaries. All diminish their faults and errors if they can get away with it. Nothing new here.

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  • Joseph
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    This epitomizes the Turk in their own minds; everything is always everyone else's faults, Turks cannot ever dream of genocide, muslims are incapable of it, empires are bad except theirs, etc:


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  • Mukuch
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    Turkish MP calls to admit Armenian genocide and apologize to Armenia

    15:04 / 03/08/2010Turkey should recognize Armenian Genocide and apologize to Armenia, said Turkish MP from Bitlis, Kurdish Peace and Democracy party member Mehmed Nezir Karabas commenting on Armenian Genocide resolution adoption by U.S. House Committee on Foreign Affairs.

    According to Haber27, Karabas stated that Turkey has never discussed and admit what happened in the beginning of last century. He maintained that we should be ashamed of having U.S. and Europe parliaments discuss this issue before April 24, instead of Turkey.

    March 4, U.S. House Committee on Foreign Affairs approved H.Res.252 on Armenian Genocide.

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  • Eddo211
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    It wont be too long in the future until we personally deliver the head of Asena on a silver platter to them.......

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  • Federate
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    Here's the website if you're interested http://cirkef.org/agos.html
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    Armenian Agos newspaper's website hacked
    12.02.2010 14:38 GMT+04:00

    /PanARMENIAN.Net/ A computer hacker posted a text on the website of weekly armenian Agos newspaper which praised Ogün Samast, prime suspect in the murder case Agos founder Hrant Dink, BİA News Center reported.

    In the writing put on the main page the hacker(s) said that the murder "was done on behalf of the Turkish flag and the Turkish Republic". Moreover, a photograph of suspect Samast was posted. The actual main page and pages containing news articles of Agos cannot be accessed right now.

    Besides plenty of spelling mistakes, the text is full of insults and threats against people who are supporting the newspaper and the Dink case. At the bottom of the writing it concludes: "The game is over".

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