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  • Re: Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

    Originally posted by Jos View Post
    ECHR rules on religious designation, Kurdish names on Turkish ID

    Europe's chief human rights court ruled Tuesday against the listing of religious affiliation on national identity cards in Turkey..

    Tuesday, 02 February 2010 15:55

    Europe's chief human rights court ruled Tuesday against the listing of religious affiliation on national identity cards in Turkey, saying that it "violated" a top European human rights charter.

    The court also ruled against eight Kurds asking to use Kurdish names on identity cards.

    The European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) said the recording of religious affiliation on identification cards Turkish citizens carry "violated European Convention of Human Rights Article 9 on freedom of conscience and religion."

    The court said no one can be forced to disclose religious belief and that it was not the duty for the state to review one's religious affiliation, which otherwise would "hamper the neutrality of the state on religious matters."


    Carrying an identity card is compulsory for Turkish citizens. But, the Turkish government introduced a new regulation in 2006, allowing persons to leave the religion section on their identity cards blank.

    Sinan Isik, a Turkish national, appealed in 2005 to the ECHR after Turkish courts refused to record "Alevi" in the religion section of his identity card.


    "Kurd letters"

    In the case of the eight Kurds, who are Turkish nationals, the court turned down a request to use Kurdish names which included the letters "q", "w" or "x", which are not part of the standard Turkish alphabet.

    Kemal Taksin, one of the plaintiffs, asked that his first name be replaced with "Dilxwaz", a Kurdish name meaning "desired". He said that was the name used by people close to him. The others made similar requests.

    The court ruled that for reasons of preserving administrative order, the state had the right to impose certain spelling norms in the use of names.

    It noted that the applicants were not forbidden from using Kurdish names, merely from spelling them in a certain way and it said that it would have been possible to use the names with spellings adjusted to the Turkish alphabet.



    Agencies

    http://www.worldbulletin.net/news_detail.php?id=53548
    You are being selective Jos, aren`t you? Oh wait, this is just an ECHR ruling, nothing really of relevance here.

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    • Re: Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

      Here's the website if you're interested http://cirkef.org/agos.html
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      Armenian Agos newspaper's website hacked
      12.02.2010 14:38 GMT+04:00

      /PanARMENIAN.Net/ A computer hacker posted a text on the website of weekly armenian Agos newspaper which praised Ogün Samast, prime suspect in the murder case Agos founder Hrant Dink, BİA News Center reported.

      In the writing put on the main page the hacker(s) said that the murder "was done on behalf of the Turkish flag and the Turkish Republic". Moreover, a photograph of suspect Samast was posted. The actual main page and pages containing news articles of Agos cannot be accessed right now.

      Besides plenty of spelling mistakes, the text is full of insults and threats against people who are supporting the newspaper and the Dink case. At the bottom of the writing it concludes: "The game is over".

      http://panarmenian.net/news/eng/?nid=42840
      Azerbaboon: 9.000 Google hits and counting!

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      • Re: Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

        It wont be too long in the future until we personally deliver the head of Asena on a silver platter to them.......
        B0zkurt Hunter

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        • Re: Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

          Turkish MP calls to admit Armenian genocide and apologize to Armenia

          15:04 / 03/08/2010Turkey should recognize Armenian Genocide and apologize to Armenia, said Turkish MP from Bitlis, Kurdish Peace and Democracy party member Mehmed Nezir Karabas commenting on Armenian Genocide resolution adoption by U.S. House Committee on Foreign Affairs.

          According to Haber27, Karabas stated that Turkey has never discussed and admit what happened in the beginning of last century. He maintained that we should be ashamed of having U.S. and Europe parliaments discuss this issue before April 24, instead of Turkey.

          March 4, U.S. House Committee on Foreign Affairs approved H.Res.252 on Armenian Genocide.
          Death or Freedom!

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          • Re: Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

            This epitomizes the Turk in their own minds; everything is always everyone else's faults, Turks cannot ever dream of genocide, muslims are incapable of it, empires are bad except theirs, etc:


            http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/co...be-a-turk.html
            General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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            • Re: Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

              Originally posted by Joseph View Post
              This epitomizes the Turk in their own minds; everything is always everyone else's faults, Turks cannot ever dream of genocide, muslims are incapable of it, empires are bad except theirs, etc:


              http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/co...be-a-turk.html
              I don't see anything unique. Virtually all nations and peoples see themselves as a cut above everyone else, including your own. Americans, Brits, Japanese, Greeks, Armenians, Swiss .... each believe their own nationality to be the best invention since sliced bread. Narcissism and arrogance have no national boundaries. All diminish their faults and errors if they can get away with it. Nothing new here.

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              • Re: Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

                Originally posted by Joseph View Post
                This epitomizes the Turk in their own minds; everything is always everyone else's faults, Turks cannot ever dream of genocide, muslims are incapable of it, empires are bad except theirs, etc:


                http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/co...be-a-turk.html
                I left a reply to that article but something tells me it wont be posted
                Hayastan or Bust.

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                • Re: Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

                  Originally posted by Jos View Post
                  I don't see anything unique. Virtually all nations and peoples see themselves as a cut above everyone else, including your own. Americans, Brits, Japanese, Greeks, Armenians, Swiss .... each believe their own nationality to be the best invention since sliced bread. Narcissism and arrogance have no national boundaries. All diminish their faults and errors if they can get away with it. Nothing new here.
                  Not all nations have laws which allow you to be thrown in jail for years simply because you criticized the government, not all nations completely misinform their own people about their own history, not all nations cutt the throats of helpless priests and nunns, not all nations assasinate repoters for talking about history, NOT ALL NATIONS COMMIT GENOCIDE!
                  Hayastan or Bust.

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                  • Re: Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

                    Originally posted by Jos View Post
                    I don't see anything unique. Virtually all nations and peoples see themselves as a cut above everyone else, including your own. Americans, Brits, Japanese, Greeks, Armenians, Swiss .... each believe their own nationality to be the best invention since sliced bread. Narcissism and arrogance have no national boundaries. All diminish their faults and errors if they can get away with it. Nothing new here.
                    Every nation has nationalists, internationalists, politically apathetic and people who love their country but still like and love others. But the issue is how far do they go? Britain, America, Greece and Armenia, Swiss admit their mistakes or at the very least not hound people who do, but Turkey and Azerbajian never do and even kill or imprison people when they speak the dirty truth.

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                    • Re: Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

                      Originally posted by hipeter924 View Post
                      Every nation has nationalists, internationalists, politically apathetic and people who love their country but still like and love others. But the issue is how far do they go? Britain, America, Greece and Armenia, Swiss admit their mistakes or at the very least not hound people who do, but Turkey and Azerbajian never do and even kill or imprison people when they speak the dirty truth.
                      Turkey and Azerbaijan were born out of massacres, genocide, and crimes...asking for recognition or punishment of those crimes is immediately putting to doubt the national identity and history of those countries, that's why their so hurt when someone tells the truth.

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