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  • #41
    Originally posted by neutral
    Another what was the Turkish population during the First world war because I could have sworn I read someone wrote that it was 6,000,000. But in other threads on this forum someone (Hovik, I think) wrote 40,000,000. There is a big difference between the two and I think this needs to be cleared up. I know wikipedia is not the most perfect website but there is a population graph that shows that the population of Turkey reached 30,000,000 by the 1960's. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:T...demography.png
    6 million Turks out of the 30 million total count of people of the Ottoman Empire, in 1910 census, that's what Sir Harding [ Ambassador to Constantapole ] wrote to the Minster of Foreign Affairs of Great Britin, 1910

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    • #42
      Originally posted by kemal1915
      we gave the equality to the all people who live in our lands ..
      That is one Brazen lie ...

      If one leave aside the Article 62 of the Treaty of Berlin, that FORCED the Ottoman government to GRANT, freedom of religion to ALL of it's subjects , which PROVE that there was NO EQUALITY AT ALL . And LOOK at TODAY's Turkey, one CAN NOT SEE ANY SORT OF EQUALITY, in a country that you clame was treating it's subject EQUALLY 100 years ago, TODAY when one want to insult another he call him "Armenian Seed", "Have Armenian Blood" ... This is what's going one TODAY ... You clame equality was 100 years ago ?!

      Are you an Idiot ? Or Ignorant Kemal ?!

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      • #43
        Originally posted by cosmos
        Originally posted by Hellektor

        "Let us say some more about what these first Tatars resembled. The first who came against our country were not like people. They were awful to see and impossible to describe. They had large heads, like a buffalo, narrow eyes like a chick, short noses like a cat, protruding chins like a dog, narrow waists like an ant, and short legs like a pig. They are completely beardless, possessing the strength of a lion and a screeching voice like an eagle. They appear unexpectedly. Their women have attractive hats covered with a brocade shawl on top and broad faces smeared with a deadly pine medicine. They give birth like snakes, and eat like wolves. Death does not appear among them, and so they can live for three hundred years. Such were the folk who came first to the upper land. They never eat bread."
        At least we are the first at something. Is there a nation got more insulting words than Turks? Till now when collecting all of these kind of words from history, they are nothing with these insults.
        You quote me so I feel I have to respond.
        I don't get what you are trying to say, it's not correctly written, however, I think you are hurt reading Grigor Aknertsi's description of your ancestors.
        Do you ever read any of my posts?
        Have you for once browsed the excerpts I have posted from Aristakes Lastivertsi's History, where he describes all the savageries your barbaric ancestors committed against us even though, in his own words, we had done you nothing?

        Don't all the pictures of those mosques and palaces Armenians built for you raise an iota of shame in your shameless behavior?

        What? Your grandpaws didn't exactly distribute candies, they brought death, destruction, rape, pillage, plunder and genocide with themselves, so how do you expect us to feel about you?

        Have you read the bullxxxx the retarded "ramilseferov" (the nick alone should be enough to ban this sadist) and the brain-damaged amoeba who calls itself "tevfik fikret" have spewed in this very thread?
        I already regret having answered the sorry sod, I just read the first post and later after answering I read the remaining posts of the brain-dead worm...

        How do you expect a historian to consider your ancestors human beings when children were ravished from the embraces of their mothers and mercilessly hurled against rocks, when they took the young boys and other little children and used them as targets, wickedly piercing and killing them with lances and arrows. Nor did any feelings of pity find their way into their natures., when for whatever they proposed regarding us was evil. Their words were full of treachery, therefore each morning dawned with them effecting yet another evil. Such were all of their plans: to wear out and exhaust us as an old coat, and to efface any memory of us in their minds?

        Your touchiness is ridiculous! Man, you massacred out entire nation and are still destroying our cultural heritage and you are offended by a description of your savage ancestors by the poor historian who experienced the cruelties of your grandpaws...
        Four things denialist Turks do when they are confronted with facts:

        I. They change the subject [SIZE="1"](e.g. they copy/paste tons of garbage to divert attention).[/SIZE]
        II. They project [SIZE="1"](e.g. they replace "Turk" with "Armenian" and vice versa and they regurgitate Armenian history).[/SIZE]
        III. They offend [SIZE="1"](e.g. they cuss, threaten and/or mock).[/SIZE]
        IV. They shut up and say nothing.

        [URL="http://b.imagehost.org/download/0689/azerbaijan-real-fake-absurd.pdf"][COLOR="Red"]A country named Azerbaijan north of the Arax River [B]NEVER[/B] existed before 1918[/COLOR][/URL]

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Hellektor
          You quote me so I feel I have to respond.
          I don't get what you are trying to say, it's not correctly written, ...
          I think that cosmos was trying to say that in irony ..

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          • #45
            Here comes another tallarmeniantale fan.

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            • #46
              Goddammit, ramilseferov, reduce your signature size!

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              • #47
                The same McFarty garbage all over again

                Originally posted by crazyt
                Hellektor I think you let your emotions go really far. As a Turk I am aware that many people are racist against the Turks. Even the Iranians are racist to the Turks they always make fun of the Turks and many Europeans hold these racist attitudes aswell. I think you Hellektor need to accept the fact the Turks are human beings. No matter what you say or how you spin anything will change that.
                I respond to everyone in a manner similar to the poster.
                It's amazing that all the offensive crap from genocidal Turks goes unnoticed and only my responses disturb the arrogant, self-righteous deniers.
                I really am curious, what makes you sooooo self-satisfied? After all, your only "contribution" to civilization doesn't amount to more than death, destruction, rape, pillage, plunder and genocide. This is recorded in countless historical accounts in many languages.
                I wonder how you can tolerate garbage like:

                Originally posted by tevfik fikret
                A nation lived under the reign of Turks for more than 4 hundred years...then betrayed them during the ww1..then they claim there's genocide..a nation disloyal to its master..a nation deserves to be sent to hell..a nation nothing but a problem for the earthVictory for TURKS...
                -Master of Revenge- (Get a life! H.)

                your buried deads belong to hell now.. (Disrespect for millions of innocent Armenians H.)

                if you try to clean your shoes with a turkish flag,you will die too.. (I woudn't wipe my ass with it lest it would give me worms! H.)

                we will make you REPENT...!!!!! History remains aloof with all real facts
                (from its style, it's obvious that this amoeba doesn't have a clue what aloof means. It's so that it has copied this sentence from McFarty...H.)

                ...one day you ll be buried alive... (Oh, get the hell out! H.)
                Originally posted by crazyt
                Look Hellektor you keep showing that Armenians apparently built a few Mosques but so what? Big hairy deal!
                A few Mosques!!!!! Armenians built your whole goddamn "empire", why don't you read the post?

                Originally posted by crazyt
                The truth is the Turks were the Masters and they instructed their Subjects (the Armenians) to do the manual work for them. Thats if that book is correct.
                Up to this offensive sentence, I though you had a grain of intellect...
                Put in in your rotten head:
                Your savage, barbaric, nomadic, Ural-Altaic, Mongolo-Tatar, Oghuz-Turkmen, cities to cinders razing, churches and houses to rubble reducing, tent-dwelling, cattle-herder, two-legged... grandpaws could not put a brick upon another. That's why in those black days they used to say:

                Ermeni ustanin elinden geçmeyen caminin minaresi ayakta kalmaz, yikilir.

                From ‘Ermeni Sorunu’ by T. Ates in ‘Yol’ No. 22-24, p.38, Duisburg, 1982.

                How many times I have to repeat this?


                Originally posted by crazyt
                Heres a quote for you, "We have never denied the Armenian crime of genocide inflicted upon 2,500,000 Muslim people between 1914 and 1920."
                Agop Zahoryan, 'Voices of Agonies', p. 91.
                Many, many posts ago, I said I'm not a great fan of quotes. Of course I do quote every now and then from different real historical sources.
                This crap you put here, and you haven't even read the book you quote, is taken out of context and spread all over the internet to accuse the Armenians of something they should have done but didn't do.

                For the rest of your copy-paste tallturkishtale.com/McFarty bullxxxx, you should know that they have been pasted in this forum hundreds of times before and I really do not have the time to repeat myself for the thousandth time.

                Originally posted by crazyt
                copy-paste tallturkishtale.com/McFarty bullxxxx
                copy-paste tallturkishtale.com/McFarty bullxxxx copy-paste tallturkishtale.com/McFarty bullxxxx copy-paste tallturkishtale.com/McFarty bullxxxx copy-paste tallturkishtale.com/McFarty bullxxxx copy-paste tallturkishtale.com/McFarty bullxxxx copy-paste tallturkishtale.com/McFarty bullxxxx copy-paste tallturkishtale.com/McFarty bullxxxx copy-paste tallturkishtale.com/McFarty bullxxxx copy-paste tallturkishtale.com/McFarty bullxxxx copy-paste tallturkishtale.com/McFarty bullxxxx copy-paste tallturkishtale.com/McFarty bullxxxx....
                ...eastern Anatolia ".
                I have already asked other Turks in this forum to show me a document or a map done before the Armenian Genocide, that calls Armenia "Eastern Anatolia" (god I hate the word Anatolia ),
                I'll make the bet with you as well:
                If you show me a pre-genocide document/map that calls Armenia Eastern Anatolia then xxxx me, otherwise xxxx you and all the genocide deniers who call my country "Eastern Anatolia", deal?

                Originally posted by crazyt
                LooL how will you get back 90% of the territory that we occupy? Hmm whats Armenia gonna do? somehow pull off the impossible and capture all of Azerbaijan and defeat the intervening Turkish Army at the same time??
                Dont forget that most of the 90% of occupied Armenia is under Turkish occupation. The time will come that the Turkish-phallus sucking West will get enough of the Turkish Delight sprayed in their immoral faces and they will drop Turkey like hot excrement, dropped from a hyena's anus. Then we will kick your Tatar butts so hard back to the steppes of Central Asia, the hell you come from and the hell you belong, that you forget the pronunciation of "Anatolia".

                Originally posted by crazyt
                Azerbaijan declared independence so a Turkic peoples numbering millions more than the Armenians (as a result of genocide H.) number would finally have a homeland
                They have a homeland and it's the steppes of Central Asia.

                Originally posted by crazyt
                Its a shame the Azeris that live in Iran dont want a homeland (they number 24% of the the total population of Iran).
                How the hell dare you!! I am an Iranian and this sort of Pan-Turkist garbage just makes me want to puke.
                First of all:

                A nation called "Azeri" has NEVER EXISTED in human history.

                Azari is a term used by Arab historians to describe the LANGUAGE of the people of real Azarbaijan (Aturpatekan), north-west of Iran and ALWAYS south of the Arax River. It was a language of the PERSIAN family of languages called Pahlavi. The dialect spoken in Aturpatekan was called Pahlavi e Azari, to distinguish it from other Pahlavi dialects. Later when the people of Aturpatekan were forced to become speakers of Turkish, the word Azari was wrongly attributed to the Turkish dialect of these people, AND NEVER TO THE PEOPLE THEMSELVES.

                The Iranians living in the real Azarbaijan, do have a homeland. They constitute a part of the great Iranian multi-ethnic family, so keep your sick Pan-Turkist garbage to yourself.

                Originally posted by crazyt
                My point is so what if Azerbajan never existed before 1918 East Timor didn't exist before 2002. If you for a second think that (Oil-Rich) Azerbaijan will be handed over to Armenia in some sort of compensation for Genocide then you are clearly delutional.
                Your point is not even clear to yourself.
                A nomadic, invading, occupying bunch of tribal bandits does not have the right to "found" its "home" on someone else's territory, call it after a province in another country and invent a name for their "nation" from the attribute of a language they have nothing to do with.
                Most of all, they don't have the right to steal the history of other nations to justify their miserable presence in a land that does in no way belong to them.
                BTW, they were called Tatars, Tatars/Turks of the Caucasus before 1918.

                Originally posted by crazyt
                Ararat is now a sacred mountain for Muslims as Noah is a respected and loved Prophet in Islam it is reported that his Arc is somewhere on mount Ararat.
                Ararat has always been a sacred mountain and it has always been the most important symbol of Armenians that you have usurped from us.

                Originally posted by crazyt
                The Allies promised alot to many people including the Kurds and the Greeks but they never delivered well thats partly because of the strength of and the decisive victory Ataturks army had in fighting the Armenians, Greeks, Italians and French. Turkey is its size because the allies couldn't and wouldn't start another war with Turkey. Turkey dictated the peace and it those land boundaries will remain the same.
                Dream on...
                Four things denialist Turks do when they are confronted with facts:

                I. They change the subject [SIZE="1"](e.g. they copy/paste tons of garbage to divert attention).[/SIZE]
                II. They project [SIZE="1"](e.g. they replace "Turk" with "Armenian" and vice versa and they regurgitate Armenian history).[/SIZE]
                III. They offend [SIZE="1"](e.g. they cuss, threaten and/or mock).[/SIZE]
                IV. They shut up and say nothing.

                [URL="http://b.imagehost.org/download/0689/azerbaijan-real-fake-absurd.pdf"][COLOR="Red"]A country named Azerbaijan north of the Arax River [B]NEVER[/B] existed before 1918[/COLOR][/URL]

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                • #48
                  Moderators, please disable the URL

                  Originally posted by Kharpert
                  Goddammit, ramilseferov, reduce your signature size!
                  Let the sorry sod be happy with the size, it compensates its penis envy!

                  However, I suggest the mods disable the URL of the signature. This is how they improve the Google ranking of their ugly hatesites, by defecating their URLs in Armenian forums.

                  Once a parasite always a parasite.
                  Four things denialist Turks do when they are confronted with facts:

                  I. They change the subject [SIZE="1"](e.g. they copy/paste tons of garbage to divert attention).[/SIZE]
                  II. They project [SIZE="1"](e.g. they replace "Turk" with "Armenian" and vice versa and they regurgitate Armenian history).[/SIZE]
                  III. They offend [SIZE="1"](e.g. they cuss, threaten and/or mock).[/SIZE]
                  IV. They shut up and say nothing.

                  [URL="http://b.imagehost.org/download/0689/azerbaijan-real-fake-absurd.pdf"][COLOR="Red"]A country named Azerbaijan north of the Arax River [B]NEVER[/B] existed before 1918[/COLOR][/URL]

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                  • #49
                    I employ the moderators to ban these garbage Turks on this thread (not refering to Cosmos but all the rest that have posted here) - do not deleat their foul posts - let them be an example of what we are up against (the ignorance and stupidity and blind pride) and please disable all direct links - such as in signatures - to racist web sites. Thank you.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Hellektor
                      McFarty...
                      Good one Hellektor , hilarious

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