Azeri Genocide, how do Armenians feel about it?

[TurQ]

1.5
Just show me one place that I have equated Karabag events with 1915? Or tried to justify 1915 by Karabag.

I am rightfully reacted Hovik's claim about Azeris killed the Azeri civilians in Khojali inorder to throw xxxx on Armenians and defame Armenians.

You can call me whatever you like it is upto you. I express what I feel. Yes I am a Turkish nationalist, proud to be Turkish. But I dont and never believed that being a Turkish nationalist is to be against Armenians. And as I said many times I have seen Armenians as part of Ottoman culture, and saw ordinary Armenians of 1915 as my cultural ancestors.

Phantom's rage was towards the attempts for Khojali events to justify 1915.

Phantom I agree with your expressed views here in this thread and your frustration 100%. I'm more then tired of dealing with these TurQs andElendils and such who should know better. Their constant denials and inscincere evasions are more of an isult to me then the humourous idiocy displayed by the like of Deniz and Ixtanbul and the other very typical Turkish posters here. As i have said before - TurQ is a genocide denier. He clokes it and his extreme uncomprimising Turkish nationalism in a venear of resonable diologe - however deep down he has done nothing here but attempt to deny the Armenian genocide and (pathetically) try to place blame on others. I can see no value in continuing this circular diologue as he - like most Turks - cannot see beyond their pathetic Turkish nationalsim to admit what really happened. No honest and rational human being can deny the Armenian Genocide and the Turkish complicity in such - come now. His agenda is clear - and likewise he is trying to blame Armenians for the tragedy in the first place and - contrary to his recent assertion otherwise - has been pushing this laughable concept of Armenian aggression and suggesting genocide commited by Armenians in NK - and he has the gaul to insinuate that we are the ones who somehow have the blinders on - etc bah

[Gavur]

Turq's ok
Even if he admits everything we say he is still a TurQ
besides his goverment doesnt except it nor will he ,until then

[1.5 million]

TurQ - if you can't understand how being a Turkish nationalist blinds you (makes you biased, predjudiced, non-open and of lesser vsion/understanding) - and by definition is counter to your claim of any empathy or thought of inclusion of Armenians in your cultural heritage (your care is for Turkish - not Ottoman culture)- well I'm sorry - but you have just confessed well and full.

Phantom's rage? What rage - he is articulate, rational, informed and well balanced...and his expressions in this and in other threads you would do well to actually attemt to absorb and understand...I will give you articulate - but it is clear you have spent much time in the States...however I don't really consider you to be well informed, certainly not balanced and not rational either - as anyone who clings so hard to nationalistic justifications as you do - to the degree of denying the clear evidence and defending the guilty - etc - well I call that irrational (and that is the most politite word I will use for it).

[phantom]

OK I back down Phantom. I just would like you thank you for your patience as being reasonable.

May be it is not a good idea to talk on these.

Let me give you some articles that I refer to. They might take some time to read.

http://www.dartmouth.edu/~crn/crn_papers/Suny.pdf

http://www.pcr.uu.se/publications/cornell_pub/main_doc.pdf

http://www.pcr.uu.se/publications/cornell_pub/nkthrpub.pdf

http://www.pcr.uu.se/publications/cornell_pub/nortcauc.pdf

http://www.pcr.uu.se/publications/cornell_pub/relicauc.pdf

These are somewaht karabag related

http://www.hyetert.com/yazi3.asp?s=0...Id=103&DilId=1 (this is rather general approach to 1915)

Khojali was 15 years ago, but the wounds of Karabag is still fresh for those refugees who live in terrible conditions. It might not stop there, georgia might be next. It is obvious that Russians are getting ready for a new play in Caucusia. Should we fall into same mistake as we did in KArabag?

http://www.armeniangenocide.com/foru...ead.php?t=1318

When you read articles, do you take them at face value. When you read the articles by Svante Cornell, did you not notice how one-sided they were? Did you not notice how the first article was backed and published by a Turkish University in Ankara, and how the other articles were done with the help of a Turkish professor? Did you not notice how he inflated the numbers of Azeri refugees, and lamenting over them while not saying a thing about the Armenian refugees from Azerbaijan? Did you notice how he glossed over Sumgait and Baku? Did you notice how he glossed over Azerbaijan's massive military offensives against Karabagh, the thousands of grad missiles that leveled Stepanakert from Shusha until the Armenians took Shusha? Did you notice how he blames the U.S. for being partial to Armenia because of supposed Armenian Lobby, while failing completely to acknowledge that Section 907 was passed as a punishment for the economic blockade of Armenia? I think you should read these articles more carefully and honestly.

[Hovik]

Next violator of forum rules gets banned!

I am absoxxxxinlutely 100% sure that
It was YOU who xxxxing did it

answer me you miserable scavenger

government-fed bullxxxx. Diaspora, myasspora!

Stupid Turkish douche bag

xxxx you.

I also hope you and your family are blown to smithereens by the PKK!

So go find a camel to xxxx you Mongoloid!

Dumbxxxxs!

This is entirely unacceptable! I have already warned some of you about language, I'm getting sick of seeing blatant and recurring violations of the forum rules. Perhaps you need to re-read the rules. Either abide by them or face the consequences. I don't want to see this kind of talk again!

BIG EFFING DEAL!

fuct.

And changing letters like this is the same thing as far as the rules are concerned, it is no different than writing the real word... and will bring appropriate consequences.

Ficke dich du fascistischer, genozidärer Scheißkopf.
Denkst Du daß Du Nüsse hast mir von hinten deinem Computermonitor zu drohen?

No language other than English or Armenian are allowed on this site - read the forum rules.

[Hovik]

Instead they're stuck on convincing the international community about an event that took place 90 years ago.

That is the purpose of this site. If you don't like it, or if you deny that the Genocide of Armenians took place, then leave!

[imported_Hellektor]

Trroghi archev ch trres, kassen vorr chooni

Ficke dich du fascistischer, genozidärer Scheißkopf.
Denkst Du daß Du Nüsse hast mir von hinten deinem Computermonitor zu drohen?

No language other than English or Armenian are allowed on this site - read the forum rules.

I will no longer participate in the discussions on this forum.
I have my own way of expressing my views and if it is offensive I'll refrain from disturbing the polite users.

However, I think it's logical that when a coward loser attacks me with the following filth in their first ever post directed at me, I act in similar fashion and reply in the same language (meaning literally a language and style of writing):

Hellektor. Sie sind Abschaum, den der Armenian Genocide real wird. Sie haben wirklich einen Todeswunsch. Ich nehme Vergnügen am Ausschnitt Sie persönlich oben in Stücke. Ihre Zeit kommt, gerade Sie warten. Ich wettete Sie wirklich Haß dieser, "es war gestorbene Kriegleute". Die lustige Sache war es war Ihre gestorbenen Leute und Sie können nicht Steckfassungsscheiße über sie tun.

Translated: Hellektor, you (Sie = polite you!) are scum, because the Armenian Genocide is becoming real*
You really have a death wish. I will take pleasure in chopping you up into pieces (in very bad German of course).
Your time comes, just wait (in poor German).
The rest is unintelligible translation software gibberish, kind of mocking the Armenian deaths.

The psycho's second post directed at me:

Ihr Computerschirm ist die einzige Sache, die Sie, Sie Sohn eines xxxx schützt. Der Türke kann nicht geschlagen werden. Armenisch sind Vormensch. Armenisch sind die Sklaven der Türken.

Translated: Your computer monitor is the only thing that protects you, you son of a xxxx. The Turk cannot be defeated. Armenians are Vormensch??? (bad German, the scum might have wanted to say sub-human or something like it),
Armenians are slaves of Turks.

*This is the confused part that led me to the conclusion that the ignoramus was using a translation software.

P.S. I'll be posting factual and visual posts dealing with the issues important to Armenians.

So long,

Take care

[Kharpert]

I support you, Hellektor. Please don't let that "ALB" scum-of-the-Earth upset you; he's obviously an xxxxxxx with nothing better to do than to "terrorize" discussions. It's a good thing he's banned and gone. I've always appreciated the information you have posted.

[imported_RUDO]

xxxxxxx.

Kharpet Do rules allow us to say such bad things?

[imported_RUDO]

That is the purpose of this site. If you don't like it, or if you deny that the Genocide of Armenians took place, then leave!

I think you should control this site more democratically.And you shouldn't let anybody say bad things to each other.