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  • #21
    Originally posted by Sardarapat
    I say forget about money reperations and land claim and concentrate on the reconition. If we ask for monetary reperations, then everyone will accuse us of making up the genocide claims or using it to get money. If we ask for land, then they'll say we're trying to steal land from Turkey. Let's be smarter than that. First of all, we don't need any land since we don't have the people to populate it and we can't kick those who have been living there out since it's not their fault. Secondly, let's concentrate on improving Armenia's economy so we don't need to look like we're beggars or thieves. If we don't ask for any land or money, then no one can say we're doing it for land or money. They can only say that we are doing it so that our dead can finally rest in peace and nothing more. People, don't you see that money and land demands are only hampering our efforts to get Turkey to reconize the genocide? Even though they were not the ones who did it, they will never recognize the genocide if they have to pay for someone elses crimes. It was the Ottoman Empire that committed the crime, but the Ottoman Empire no longer exists. There's simply no logic in holding a son or grandson responsible for his father's or grandfather's crimes and wanting compensation from him.

    Let's get Turkey to recognize the Armenian Genocide with no strings attached so we can move on and concentrate on the future of Armenia instead of living in the past.
    What about we give them some of Armenia's lands and we also pay them some money that way no one will ever have any doubts about our intentions. Right?
    Are you kidding me?

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Ahapeg
      Our bigest and most dangerous enemy is our separateness.

      Lets we all unite and than you all can see how untouchable and strong Armenians are,not by nomber but by intelect and brave-heart.
      totally agreed!

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      • #23
        Originally posted by 1.5 million
        Turkey must transform and mature (and comming to terms with its real history as well as publically recognizing its history of racism and suppression of ethnic minorities and mitigating such is key to this). If not Turkey, as we know it, will go the way of the Ottoman Empire - the cost will be blood - and the outcome will leave a nation looking more like present day Iran - but far worse.
        Iranians and Iran are infenitely better than Turks. What is that last comment of yours supposed to mean?

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Gavur
          Thats not accurate
          If they dont share the guilt and the blame of the Young Turks why are they covering it up?and denying it?
          Because they think we want to take their land and want money. If it wasn't for their fear of that, they probably would have recognized it a long time ago and Armenia could have been much better off today by having open borders to do trade.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Krokodil
            Well, if some rapist breaks into your home, kills members of your family, you barely escape with your life, than that killer/rapist/thief passes the stolen property to his kids and your kids learn of it, who's house is it legally, and who owns the possesions of that house? There is no "greed" in wanting what was stolen from you back.
            The keyword is "legally". If you have proof that the stolen property is yours, then you should take your claim to a court and have it returned to you "legally". But even so. What are you going to do with all that land when there are no Armenians to repopulate it? What are you going to do with all the people that are living there now? Where will they go? It just doesn't seem right to kick people who didn't do anything wrong, out of their homes.

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            • #26
              Whoever want to share Nationalistic ideas, should be allowed without conditions or rules, as long as they defend our interest/"Armenians" and the interest of our fatherland/"Armenia".

              And all this Nazi/Racist behaviour, must stop. All we need to do is speak the truth and seek the truth.

              I was reading this forum for about a month or so, just lately, I realized that Armenians are slapping eachothers "what a shame" and I dont know if they are even Armenians?

              And for the Turk to be allowed.... remains a big quastion for me.???

              For the traitors among us, we must take absolut protection not to fall into their traps, instead we must seak them out and destroy them once and for all.

              those who defend Turks in political arenas we will uncover them sooner or later in more suitable ways.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Ahapeg
                Whoever want to share Nationalistic ideas, should be allowed without conditions or rules, as long as they defend our interest/"Armenians" and the interest of our fatherland/"Armenia".

                And all this Nazi/Racist behaviour, must stop. All we need to do is speak the truth and seek the truth.

                I was reading this forum for about a month or so, just lately, I realized that Armenians are slapping eachothers "what a shame" and I dont know if they are even Armenians?

                And for the Turk to be allowed.... remains a big quastion for me.???

                For the traitors among us, we must take absolut protection not to fall into their traps, instead we must seak them out and destroy them once and for all.

                those who defend Turks in political arenas we will uncover them sooner or later in more suitable ways.

                The truth is that any form of nationalism leads to EXTREMISM, to Nazism, to racism and hate.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Sardarapat
                  The truth is that any form of nationalism leads to EXTREMISM, to Nazism, to racism and hate.
                  Why?

                  If someone speak the truth about his nation or follow's a nationalistic idea must be labeled as extrem/nazi or racist.

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                  • #29
                    unless if our enemies want to label us so........

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Ahapeg
                      kouyrig Maral to mi mdahokvir tshnamin arten nerkin hivantoutiamp g' darabi
                      miayn bedk e sbassel vor nerkin cordzaraneren meg@ khordagoui yev microbe marminin darazoui.

                      paytz menk bedk e mishd badrast ellank tiague ayrelou

                      That's true ..

                      Payits, chek garzer te ov vor bedi nerkin kante tshnamiein, ayn bedi krave mer mayrenik@ ? zor orinag kurter@ !
                      Anor hamar, enchbes vor esier, menk mishd bedke badrasd @llank, vor mer eravunkner@ bashdbanel...

                      Yete enzi harsnes, yes g@ garzem te menk mod oren erort ashkharain griev me bedi desnenk, ays amen erarantsum@ bedchi verchana terouin ... yev ayn e amenen lav dzmanagne mezi hamar

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