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  • #21
    http://www.mhp.org.tr/ If you want you can visit their site but it is Turkish.You can see their sign and their head(başbuğ)(Alparslan Türkeş)

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    • #22
      Originally posted by elendil
      Well you see Rudo, there were only a few assasins among Grey Wolves the rest thought they were doing the right thing for their country. They may be wrong or right but the ones expect assasins should not and must not be called "animals". That is what I say..
      A few?I advise you to read our near history again.A few assasins can kill hundreds of people?????

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      • #23
        A few?I advise you to read our near history again.A few assasins can kill hundreds of people?????
        200-300 assasins are few in my regard when Grey Wolf community form millions...

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        • #24
          Originally posted by TurQ
          What I am saying is that KOntrgerilla and Greywolves are not the same.
          KOntrgerilla provoke leftist-rightist strife. They provokoe both sides..
          And KOntrgerilla also leaked into far left.
          Why do you advocate Grey Wolves?I can't understand.If Grey Wolves hadn't wanted to kill people they wouldn't have done it.Was only reason Kontrgerilla?

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          • #25
            Originally posted by elendil
            200-300 assasins are few in my regard when Grey Wolf community form millions...
            But those millions supported murderers,didn't they?

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            • #26
              Why do you advocate Grey Wolves?I can't understand.If Grey Wolves hadn't wanted to kill people they wouldn't have done it.Was only reason Kontrgerilla?
              Let me try to explain like this. In times of Hitler nearly all german community followed that madman and executed Jewish people. Nazi movement though a racist one was the movement of people. When Nazis were brought down what was condemned was not the people but the ideology. How can that be possible when all German nation joined this act? That would be because expect a few individuals( a few thousands) they believed what they did was right for their country thus they were innocent. You can not condemn such a number of people since people can not be evil as a whole. To hell with advocating Grey Wolves, I am advocating my people. Leave Grey Wolves out, Leave Islamists out, Leave Ottomanists out and who is left of Turkish nation Rudo? You must see regardless of their mistakes these are our people and they are who we have. It is very easy to insult, condemn and curse these people. It is hard to win them back as open-minded, working, polite and decent people. Dont you think that I leave Kurdish Turks of Turkey out. They too must not be condemed as terrorists, dividers as a people. My advice take the hard way, win people back....

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              • #27
                Originally posted by elendil
                200-300 assasins are few in my regard when Grey Wolf community form millions...
                ummm .. Gray Wolves suppoed to be an organization to counter ASALA assasinations of Turkish Deplomats , right ??

                200-300 at least were "Actual Assasins" !! Don't you think that this is a VERY HUGE number for the designed task ??

                ASALA counter attacks was just the cover under which those people were organizing, their REAL mission was something totally different apparently !

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by elendil
                  Let me try to explain like this. In times of Hitler nearly all german community followed that madman and executed Jewish people. Nazi movement though a racist one was the movement of people. When Nazis were brought down what was condemned was not the people but the ideology. How can that be possible when all German nation joined this act? That would be because expect a few individuals( a few thousands) they believed what they did was right for their country thus they were innocent. You can not condemn such a number of people since people can not be evil as a whole. To hell with advocating Grey Wolves, I am advocating my people. Leave Grey Wolves out, Leave Islamists out, Leave Ottomanists out and who is left of Turkish nation Rudo? You must see regardless of their mistakes these are our people and they are who we have. It is very easy to insult, condemn and curse these people. It is hard to win them back as open-minded, working, polite and decent people. Dont you think that I leave Kurdish Turks of Turkey out. They too must not be condemed as terrorists, dividers as a people. My advice take the hard way, win people back....
                  Yes you are right in that point.We should win them.If not,they will again kill people.

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                  • #29
                    ummm .. Gray Wolves suppoed to be an organization to counter ASALA assasinations of Turkish Deplomats , right ??

                    200-300 at least were "Actual Assasins" !! Don't you think that this is a VERY HUGE number for the designed task ??

                    ASALA counter attacks was just the cover under which those people were organizing, their REAL mission was something totally different apparently !
                    No Maral, shortly to say Grey Wolves are the symbol of the Turkish Nationalist Movement party in Turkey. There were-are people from the party that assisted
                    the counter-guerilla operations for the Turkey. They have also attacked Asala that much is true, but they also helped to kill many a writer, thinker in times of military coups. That is the point of discussion we are having with Rudo.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by maral_m79
                      ummm .. Gray Wolves suppoed to be an organization to counter ASALA assasinations of Turkish Deplomats , right ??

                      200-300 at least were "Actual Assasins" !! Don't you think that this is a VERY HUGE number for the designed task ??

                      ASALA counter attacks was just the cover under which those people were organizing, their REAL mission was something totally different apparently !
                      It is not a big number.Because there were a lot of people(lef-winged)to kill. So I think it is even small.

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