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  • The Finns and Turks had interaction supposedly during Oguz Kagan's period.

    It is thought that tribes from Finland immigrated to historical Turkish lands. The Finns have a the epic story similar to Turkish story of Ergenekon.

    There certainly is an interaction(mostly cultural) of some sort one way or another, but ethnically it seems to me very weak possibility.


    Originally posted by ScythianVizier
    I am not sure about the others, but I am a Karachai-Balkar (Bolgar Turk also known as Circassian Turks), and in fact, the Bolgars (Bulgars) are one of the ancient Turkish tribes.

    If you would read a bit about Karachai-Balkar, Tatar, Chuvash and other Turkic Bolgar tribes, then you would find that only the ones residing in Bulgaria can not speak a Turkic dialect, but the rest still retains their heritage even they are Christians or Muslims.

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    • Just like they changed Vulpes Vulpes Kurdistanica, Kurds should change the name of Turkey to Donkey

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      • Originally posted by TurQ
        The Finns and Turks had interaction supposedly during Oguz Kagan's period.

        It is thought that tribes from Finland immigrated to historical Turkish lands. The Finns have a the epic story similar to Turkish story of Ergenekon.

        There certainly is an interaction(mostly cultural) of some sort one way or another, but ethnically it seems to me very weak possibility.
        Finns are reffered as 13th tribe in some resources but thats highly questionable...

        İ can't seem to find the website that i read about that... i'll send its link here if i find it..

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        • Originally posted by kerkuk_kurdista
          Just like they changed Vulpes Vulpes Kurdistanica, Kurds should change the name of Turkey to Donkey
          yepp do that if you can!! Maybe in your dreams though. Go to sleep now sweet little baby

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          • Originally posted by Umay
            yepp do that if you can!! Maybe in your dreams though. Go to sleep now sweet little baby
            Whats ur country? Donkey, it means you are a Donkeysh citizen with donkey traditions, As if it not true, bastard-people and mix weren;t enough?

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            • you are guilty

              {Edited Post by Hovik} Member speaking blatantly rude to other members.

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              • Whats ur country? Donkey, it means you are a Donkeysh citizen with donkey traditions, As if it not true, bastard-people and mix weren;t enough?
                Dont shame Kurdish people by speaking more idiocy please....

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                • Originally posted by kerkuk_kurdista
                  Whats ur country? Donkey, it means you are a Donkeysh citizen with donkey traditions, As if it not true, bastard-people and mix weren;t enough?
                  May that Donkey make love to you Donkey style. You seem to be missing it.

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                  • Originally posted by TurQ
                    The Finns and Turks had interaction supposedly during Oguz Kagan's period.

                    It is thought that tribes from Finland immigrated to historical Turkish lands. The Finns have a the epic story similar to Turkish story of Ergenekon.

                    There certainly is an interaction(mostly cultural) of some sort one way or another, but ethnically it seems to me very weak possibility.
                    It is true that the Turks interacted with Finns, but the Turks also interacted with the Slavs. In that sense, if you read the Russian history, then you see how much interaction between those two cultures occurred, in fact far more than the ones existed with the Finnish people.

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                    • Originally posted by 1.5 million
                      I don't at all doubt what you say....however there is also a tendency among some Turks to claim just about every once nomadic tribe on earth as having been a Turk - and more. My comment was making light of this. In no way was I trying to disparage your history or that of various Turks - many of whom in all likelyhood have a varied and interesting background such as yourself and other Turks I know. Its quite a shame that Kemal saw no value in these identities and instead attempted to broad brush this definition of who/what is a Turk...(rather sucessfully - though not completely - and this has been at the root of much of the unrest in your nation - the cultural/identity supression...which is directly related to the Armenain Genocide and its denail BTW - all part of the same cloth woven by Ataturk...)
                      Kemal Ataturk was originally an Ottoman statesman, and the perceptions he utilized coincided with the nation-building era of the late 19th and early 20th Centuries. Perhaps, Turkey could have been a different place if all ethnicities are recorded and respected by the start up of the republic, but I guess it could have been rather a Yugoslavia style country which could have perished due some global changes.

                      The denial of Armenian Genocide is a political matter since it turned out to be some political issue due to the decisions of some Western/European parliaments. Hence, it is quite common to meet people in Turkey who are the descendants of some people who were forced to migrate from former lands of the Ottoman Empire. Generally speaking, those do not tend to name the events as a genocide. That is of course, my personal analysis as far as my personal conversations are concerned with the people who have Bosnian, Albanian, Tatar, Pomak, Circassian, Muslim Greek, Laz, Chechen, and Akhbaz origins.

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