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WOW If anyone saw the PBS Documentary on the Armenian Genocide click here

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    WOW If anyone saw the PBS Documentary on the Armenian Genocide click here

    HOLY COW!!! Never have I seen something so good!...and I made a documentary on the Genocide! It was amazing!
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    Yes it was great and there was a standing ovation for Mr.Goldberg after the movie when he thanked the audience for coming there were shouts of NO, THANK YOU's from the audience.
    "All truth passes through three stages:
    First, it is ridiculed;
    Second, it is violently opposed; and
    Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

    Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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    • #3
      It was extremely well done. While it could only gloss over much and did not detail as much of the actual hatred and scapegoating of Armenians by Turks (and why) nor get into some of the revolutionary (and racist/Pan Turkic) aspects of the CUP movement and how this contributed to their pre-planning of the Genocide (not as a result of defeats by Russia and blaming Armenians - this was used as one of many tactics to incite hatred against Armenians and justify actions - but the plan was premeditated prior to this time)...anyway for a 1 hour program it was brilliant - the best I have ever seen...

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      • #4
        1.5 you should of been there
        They were looking for some audience members to interview.
        "All truth passes through three stages:
        First, it is ridiculed;
        Second, it is violently opposed; and
        Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

        Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Gavur
          1.5 you should of been there
          They were looking for some audience members to interview.
          I watched it twice right in a row - the first time with minimal comment (sometimes i just couldn't help myself) the second time I add libbed additional facts/info & explanations to my wife as we watched it again. I've recorded the entire show onto my HD and will likely watch it again. it would be interesting to see transcripts and then annotate them - the structure of the presentation was absolutly first rate and could be used as the basis for a much more detailed overview and analysis. And a very good use of Turks all around...

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            Originally posted by 1.5 million
            I watched it twice right in a row - the first time with minimal comment (sometimes i just couldn't help myself) the second time I add libbed additional facts/info & explanations to my wife as we watched it again. I've recorded the entire show onto my HD and will likely watch it again. it would be interesting to see transcripts and then annotate them - the structure of the presentation was absolutly first rate and could be used as the basis for a much more detailed overview and analysis. And a very good use of Turks all around...

            I'm trying to write you , it says your inbox is full...

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Hovik
              I'm trying to write you , it says your inbox is full...
              Oh - OK - let me see if I can clean some things out.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Soorp Asdvadz
                HOLY COW!!! Never have I seen something so good!...and I made a documentary on the Genocide! It was amazing!

                It was excellent. Very concise and considering it was only an hour long
                General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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                • #9
                  Awesome, just totally Awesome! It was both emotional and rational, somehow both at the same time.

                  Incidentally, I also saw the panel discussion afterward, because they showed it in my city. And I have to tell you guys, I wish they would have showed that panel discussion everywhere. We shouldn't have protested it. Balakian and Akcam literally made McCarthy and Omer look like clowns. Actually, McCarthy came off looking like a chauvinistic idiot, while Omer was nothing more than a clown. Also, the moderator, Scott Simon, was at times visibly annoyed by Omer's inability to articulate a rational position. He was actually a pretty good moderator and asked some really good questions that further exposed Omer and McCarthy as what they really are.

                  I have even more respect for Balakian now than I had before. He is such a good speaker and debator. And Akcam is very passionate about his position as well. At one point, when Simon asked why it was so important to call it a Genocide rather than a tragedy or a catastrophe or some other key word, Akcam got all worked up and said that it's actually totally ridiculous to discuss whether or not it was Genocide, because there is no other word to describe what it was, today we call the killing of 7000 men in Bosnia a Genocide, and we're not going to call what happened to the Armenians a Genocide! (that's my paraphrase of what Akcam said).

                  Balakian was awesome. He exposed that McCarthy works for the Turkish government, and McCarthy got so pissed off about that. He said it was a lie, and Balakian pulled out a two page article from Reuters which talks about how McCarthy advises the Turkish govt. on how to deny the Genocide and offered to read from it. McCarthy was red with anger. It was awesome.

                  The last point that McCarthy made was that even more Muslims were killed than Armenians and that it was more like a civil war or a mutual genocide than what was portrayed in the movie. Balakian got the last word and he used that opportunity to basically point out the absurdity of McCarthy's last point. He said that if we are going to believe that a powerless, unarmed Christian minority was capable of comitting violence on any significant scale, then we are entering the realm of the absurd. (again paraphrasing, his words were much more eloquent). It was a great way to end the discussion.

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                  • #10
                    I have some questions about this documentary, but it is early first I have to watch it, and wait for some time to cool things down(you know it is april) and then if I dont forget I'll ask those questions


                    Originally posted by phantom
                    Awesome, just totally Awesome! It was both emotional and rational, somehow both at the same time.

                    Incidentally, I also saw the panel discussion afterward, because they showed it in my city. And I have to tell you guys, I wish they would have showed that panel discussion everywhere. We shouldn't have protested it. Balakian and Akcam literally made McCarthy and Omer look like clowns. Actually, McCarthy came off looking like a chauvinistic idiot, while Omer was nothing more than a clown. Also, the moderator, Scott Simon, was at times visibly annoyed by Omer's inability to articulate a rational position. He was actually a pretty good moderator and asked some really good questions that further exposed Omer and McCarthy as what they really are.

                    I have even more respect for Balakian now than I had before. He is such a good speaker and debator. And Akcam is very passionate about his position as well. At one point, when Simon asked why it was so important to call it a Genocide rather than a tragedy or a catastrophe or some other key word, Akcam got all worked up and said that it's actually totally ridiculous to discuss whether or not it was Genocide, because there is no other word to describe what it was, today we call the killing of 7000 men in Bosnia a Genocide, and we're not going to call what happened to the Armenians a Genocide! (that's my paraphrase of what Akcam said).

                    Balakian was awesome. He exposed that McCarthy works for the Turkish government, and McCarthy got so pissed off about that. He said it was a lie, and Balakian pulled out a two page article from Reuters which talks about how McCarthy advises the Turkish govt. on how to deny the Genocide and offered to read from it. McCarthy was red with anger. It was awesome.

                    The last point that McCarthy made was that even more Muslims were killed than Armenians and that it was more like a civil war or a mutual genocide than what was portrayed in the movie. Balakian got the last word and he used that opportunity to basically point out the absurdity of McCarthy's last point. He said that if we are going to believe that a powerless, unarmed Christian minority was capable of comitting violence on any significant scale, then we are entering the realm of the absurd. (again paraphrasing, his words were much more eloquent). It was a great way to end the discussion.

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