WOW If anyone saw the PBS Documentary on the Armenian Genocide click here

[TurQ]

Do you know any official website for the documentary?

The letter did not say that he personally killed 300 people. The letter said that they (as a group) killed 1200 Armenians, praise be to Allah. A citation to the letter is not made, but I'm sure if you want to see the original, you can contact the director and ask for it.

[1.5 million]

Yeah I'm waiting with baited breadth for Turq's critique on the filmakers or (repeated) attacks on Balakian or such - in his typical style - rather then addressing the issues raised in the film.

[TurQ]

Do you know when they re gonna air next?

Well to be honest I dont expect much to hear anything new in the documentary, problably same information was provided here, or same issues adressed here(I'll watch and see myself), may be artistically presented I dont know, proably nothing new.

I have not attacked Balakian, some posters here applauded Balakian showing that Prof. Justin Mccarty is funded by Turkish state(or working with), but the very same thing applies to the makers of this documentary
Here is the list of the sponsors.

One thing that I have not understand(may be I'll understand when I'll watch) about the discussion thing, why those Armenian groups so much opposed the airing of the discussion? Did Balakian say, OK I'll discuss but dont show it in public? If he and Akcam didnt see anything wrong to participate in that discussion why do the Armenian communities oppose it? Did they condemn Balakian in person for his participation? Anyways may be it'll be more clear when I watch the debate.

http://www.pbs.org/ombudsman/2006/03/coming_soon_to_viewers_like_you_the_armenian.html

ABNOUS, SUZANNE M. AND RAZMIK; ASLANIAN, RICH; AVANESSIANS FAMILY FOUNDATION; BABIKIAN, JEFFREY C.; BALIAN FAMILY FOUNDATION, INC.; BEDROSIAN, MR. JOHN C. & JUDITH D.; CALIFORNIA COMMERCE CLUB; DEMIRJIAN, YERVANT; FALCON MANAGEMENT CORPORATION; GRS MANAGEMENT; HAGOPIAN FAMILY FOUNDATION; HAMPAR, ARMEN AND NORA; HAMPARIAN FAMILY FOUNDATION; KABLANIAN, ADAM; KAZANJIAN BROS.; KECHEJIAN FOUNDATION; KECHEJIAN, SARKIS; KEVORKIAN FOUNDATION, GRGE & ALICE; KHEDERIAN, ROBERT P. AND LORA M.; KOUYOUMDJIAN, HAGOP AND ERANICA; KULHANJIAN STRAUCH FAMILY FDN; LINCY FOUNDATION, THE; MANOOGIAN SIMONE FOUNDATION; MARDIGIAN FOUNDATION; MEKHJIAN, DR. HAROUTUNE & SHAKE FDN; MULLER USA, FRANCK; SIRAN & ANOUSH MATHEVOSIAN CTBL FDN; SOBEL/DUNN FDN, JONATHAN & MARCIA; ST. GREGORY/ ILLUM ARMENIAN CHURCH; UNITED ARMENIAN CHARITIES; VARIOUS; VARIOUS INDIVIDUALS; VARIOUS PRIVATE FOUNDATIONS; WAGNER, JEANETTE S. AND PAUL A.

Yeah I'm waiting with baited breadth for Turq's critique on the filmakers or (repeated) attacks on Balakian or such - in his typical style - rather then addressing the issues raised in the film.

[Gavur]

Dude you should whatch it just to see the murderous eyes of Talat
I've seen only pictures of him up to now but in the movie theres a clip of him and it will send shivers up your spine whether your a TurQ or Armenian he is nothing like his pictures.I mean I lived in Turkey I never saw anyone with those evil eyes before anywhere.

[TurQ]

I always thought of Talat loking funny, no sign of a statesmen's standing.
sounds interesting how did they find that clip, may be the germans.

Did you read his conversation with his Tashnak friend right before the arrests in april?

Dude you should whatch it just to see the murderous eyes of Talat
I've seen only pictures of him up to now but in the movie theres a clip of him and it will send shivers up your spine whether your a TurQ or Armenian he is nothing like his pictures.I mean I lived in Turkey I never saw anyone with those evil eyes before anywhere.

[Gavur]

Yup also theres a clip showing Enver kissing Prussian butt,now thats funny!
and a clip of Mustafa Kemal looking very uneasy and lack of confidence when he poses in a group picture that was filmed with his unholy Muttefiks (Allys)
these never before seen clips make it memorable along with ofcoures the grandaddy of them all Mr, Lemkins rare clip describing how he came up with the term genocide for the Jews after he was inspired by witnessing the Armenian Genocide.

[1.5 million]

[QUOTE=TurQ] propoganda style documentaries[QUOTE]
Of course propoganda.....yeah - You are a genocide denier BTW...FU

[TurQ]

1.5 dont jump into the matter fast, slow down, that was a general comment, I dont like propoganda of any sort be it Turkish Armenian or whatever.
I told you that I hve not watched it yet, I'll see what's with it.

About the denial thing, yes I dont depict the events that the way you describe
(like Ottomans or Turks particpiated in it with all of their institutations, CUP and others were having uniform approach towards Armenians etc), as long as you keep your claims for core CUP I wont oppose you, eventhough I wouldnt prefer G word, they the core CUP is responsible, but you tell a different story that I dont accept, and I also dont accept your claims about Turks or Kurds have never been harmed by Fedayins in Van and neighbouring provinces in 1915(even though you accept/claim that in 1917-18 they did some, only the crazed renegade youth), which is a blatant denial itself. Anyways we both know our stand points, you can try to vilify me anyways if you like.
For the F words that you use, I would say in Turkish "kotu soz sahibine aittir",
meaning "ugly word belongs its possessor"



[QUOTE=1.5 million][QUOTE=TurQ] propoganda style documentaries

Of course propoganda.....yeah - You are a genocide denier BTW...FU

[Gavur]

Turq I admire you for liking 20 voices that shows you are very much intersted in the the human side of the story .
I tell you thats where we all begin listening to the humanside from our grandparents which some Turks can claim the same but the difference i which is a giant one if you step outside of the box for a moment and see The Armenians were under the rule of the Turks and the vast scale of the crime should leave no doubt for anyone that graduates and evolves his thoughts from the human scale to the scale of God.

[TurQ]

Gavur

Once a famous Turkish poet said "Yalan soyleyen cok gordum fakat yalan sayiklayan gormedim", thats why I give so much credit to the personal stories told by the elderly.

I also do know that that "ates dustugu yeri yakar" fire burns where it lands, so normally we are affected so much of our own family histories, such documentaries like 20voices help us to feel the other side's pain in person, thats what i thought.

Turq I admire you for liking 20 voices that shows you are very much intersted in the the human side of the story .
I tell you thats where we all begin listening to the humanside from our grandparents which some Turks can claim the same but the difference i which is a giant one if you step outside of the box for a moment and see The Armenians were under the rule of the Turks and the vast scale of the crime should leave no doubt for anyone that graduates and evolves his thoughts from the human scale to the scale of God.