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  • #21
    Diagnosis of the Psychosis: Symptom I They change the subject

    Originally posted by yeniçeri
    than now is the time for fight isnt it? I am ashamed of what you now say. Do you know? you havent taken any lessons from the events your ancestors have suffered. You with your these words remind me Talat Pasha. You even dont know the meaning of homeland. Homeland is not the place where some people you dont know and meet any of them(ancestors) live. It is where you love to be and live. As far as I see you are hungry for soil. You say homeland to places that you havent seen, lived, loved, worked. Yes you mean this is the right time to fight. Also thank you
    You are avoiding the subject and it's a common Turkish trait.
    All what you say does not take away the pain Armenians suffered under you.
    If it wasn't because of you, I wouldn't be a second class citizen somewhere in this world (yes I've also lived in racist Europe for years).
    If it wasn't for you, Armenia would be a prosperous country like Switzerland or Japan or even better. I have no doubt about that. The Armenian industriousness is praised wherever they've been.

    You took something priceless from us and you are so insensitive that you cannot bring yourself to apologize.
    Four things denialist Turks do when they are confronted with facts:

    I. They change the subject [SIZE="1"](e.g. they copy/paste tons of garbage to divert attention).[/SIZE]
    II. They project [SIZE="1"](e.g. they replace "Turk" with "Armenian" and vice versa and they regurgitate Armenian history).[/SIZE]
    III. They offend [SIZE="1"](e.g. they cuss, threaten and/or mock).[/SIZE]
    IV. They shut up and say nothing.

    [URL="http://b.imagehost.org/download/0689/azerbaijan-real-fake-absurd.pdf"][COLOR="Red"]A country named Azerbaijan north of the Arax River [B]NEVER[/B] existed before 1918[/COLOR][/URL]

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    • #22
      Originally posted by yeniçeri
      thank 42 diplomats. you showed us once again your intention even which you did not hesitate to show. You not only did not answer my questions but also made inhumane comments again.
      The Turks and Armenains on this board have both determined that 42 diplomats is a Turk pretending to be Armenian
      General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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      • #23
        HE cant even pretend

        It's funny that he still insists on that

        Originally posted by Joseph
        The Turks and Armenains on this board have both determined that 42 diplomats is a Turk pretending to be Armenian

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Hellektor
          I want my home back and I'll get it back even if it takes centuries.
          East Turkey that you call it as your home, is not your home since the year of 1071 AC. And since 1071, you have not been majority in East Turkey. And you didn't ever manage to establish a long life state in EAst Anatolia in all history of humanity. And you didn't ever manage to control this region wholly, at all. And now if you think that you get this land back with using AG, but you are wrong, can never succeed it.
          I will read the forum rules and not post in Turkish! I will read the forum rules and not post in Turkish! I will read the forum rules and not post in Turkish! I will read the forum rules and not post in Turkish! I will read the forum rules and not post in Turkish! I will read the forum rules and not post in Turkish! I will read the forum rules and not post in Turkish! I will read the forum rules and not post in Turkish!

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          • #25
            Originally posted by TurQ
            HE cant even pretend

            It's funny that he still insists on that

            Turks and Armenians can agree on one thing, we need to ignore 42 diplomats... or perhaps two things; neither Cher nor Tarkan are particularly talented (hahaha, actually just my opinion)
            General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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            • #26
              thank you joseph for understanding. I totally agree with you on the fact that nationalism brings natioanilism. Dialogue will surely be if not the solution way to solution.
              img]http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/1487/antisoad6mm.gif[/img]

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Tarrak Hasan
                East Turkey that you call it as your home, is not your home since the year of 1071 AC. And since 1071, you have not been majority in East Turkey. And you didn't ever manage to establish a long life state in EAst Anatolia in all history of humanity. And you didn't ever manage to control this region wholly, at all. And now if you think that you get this land back with using AG, but you are wrong, can never succeed it.
                Really???
                I just pasted these for another brainwashed, predictable Turk.
                What the hell, here once again:

                Jean Baptiste Tavernier, who traveled six times in the East in the period of 1632-1668 wrote in his notes that “the land stretching from Tokat to Tabriz is almost exclusively inhabited by Christians and this region used to be part of the Armenian Kingdom...That's why it's not surprising to come across fifty Armenians for every single Muslim”.

                Reis Efendi in his Risalesi, the official report for the Ottoman Ministry of Interior, prepared in 1778-1780, wrote that "the Armenians were the most numerous reaya-population in the Ottoman State". In numbers it should lie somewhere between 2.5 to 3 million, since the Greek population at the time must have been over 2 million.

                Scroll down the page. Check out the Kings of Armenia

                Especially those after 1071:

                Princes and Kings of Cilician Armenia

                A. RUBENID DYNASTY

                RUBEN I, 1080-1095
                CONSTANTINE I (son), 1095-1099
                THEODORE I (son), 1100-1129
                LEWON (LEO) I (brother), 1129-1138, d. 1141
                [Cilicia occupied by the Byzantines, 1138-1145]
                THEODORE II (son), 1145-1169
                RUBEN II (son), 1169-1170
                MLEH (uncle), 1170-1175
                RUBEN III (nephew), 1175-1186
                LEWON (LEO) II (I) the Great (brother), 1186-1198/99; King of Armenia, 1198/99-1219
                ISABEL (daughter), 1219-1222
                PHILIP OF ANTIOCH (consort), 1222-1225

                B. HET'UMID DYNASTY

                HET'UM I of Lambron (second consort of ISABEL), 1226-1269, d. 1270
                LEWON (LEO) III (II) (son), 1269-1289
                HET'UM II (son), 1289-1293, 1294-1296, 1299-1305, d. 1308
                THEODORE III (I) (brother), 1293-1294, d. 1299
                SMBAT (brother), 1296-1298
                CONSTANTINE II (I) (brother), 1298-1299
                LEWON (LEO) IV (III) (son of THEODORE III), 1305-1308
                OSHIN (son of LEO III), 1308-1320
                LEWON (LEO) V (IV) (son), 1320-1341

                C. LUSIGNAN DYNASTY

                GUY I de LUSIGNAN (cousin of LEO V), 1342-1344; Regent: John de Lusignan (brother), 1342
                CONSTANTINE III (II) (outsider), 1344-1363
                CONSTANTINE IV (III) (cousin), 1365-1373
                PETER de LUSIGNAN, King of Cyprus, invited, 1368-1369
                LEO VI (V) de LUSIGNAN (GUY'S nephew), 1373-1375
                [Mamluk conquest of Cilician Armenia]

                __________________

                It’s only that the US of A is pouring hundreds of billions of dollar$ down the bottomless throat of the Sick Man of Europe. When the Turkish schlong pops out of the Imperialist mouths and they get enough of Turkish Delight sprayed all over their immoral faces, we will kick your Tatar asses back to Mongolia, the hell you come from and the hell you belong.

                We’ll kick so hard that you’ll forget how to pronounce “Anatolia”. Count on it.
                Four things denialist Turks do when they are confronted with facts:

                I. They change the subject [SIZE="1"](e.g. they copy/paste tons of garbage to divert attention).[/SIZE]
                II. They project [SIZE="1"](e.g. they replace "Turk" with "Armenian" and vice versa and they regurgitate Armenian history).[/SIZE]
                III. They offend [SIZE="1"](e.g. they cuss, threaten and/or mock).[/SIZE]
                IV. They shut up and say nothing.

                [URL="http://b.imagehost.org/download/0689/azerbaijan-real-fake-absurd.pdf"][COLOR="Red"]A country named Azerbaijan north of the Arax River [B]NEVER[/B] existed before 1918[/COLOR][/URL]

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Tarrak Hasan
                  East Turkey that you call it as your home, is not your home since the year of 1071 AC.
                  Ooooh! I see. I thought you were talking about 1071 A.D.
                  Four things denialist Turks do when they are confronted with facts:

                  I. They change the subject [SIZE="1"](e.g. they copy/paste tons of garbage to divert attention).[/SIZE]
                  II. They project [SIZE="1"](e.g. they replace "Turk" with "Armenian" and vice versa and they regurgitate Armenian history).[/SIZE]
                  III. They offend [SIZE="1"](e.g. they cuss, threaten and/or mock).[/SIZE]
                  IV. They shut up and say nothing.

                  [URL="http://b.imagehost.org/download/0689/azerbaijan-real-fake-absurd.pdf"][COLOR="Red"]A country named Azerbaijan north of the Arax River [B]NEVER[/B] existed before 1918[/COLOR][/URL]

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by yeniçeri
                    than now is the time for fight isnt it? I am ashamed of what you now say. Do you know? you havent taken any lessons from the events your ancestors have suffered. You with your these words remind me Talat Pasha. You even dont know the meaning of homeland. Homeland is not the place where some people you dont know and meet any of them(ancestors) live. It is where you love to be and live. As far as I see you are hungry for soil. You say homeland to places that you havent seen, lived, loved, worked. Yes you mean this is the right time to fight. Also thank you
                    .

                    Getting a little bit touchy now are we? I suggest that this turk be sent packing. The usual predictable turkish BS.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Tarrak Hasan
                      East Turkey that you call it as your home, is not your home since the year of 1071 AC. And since 1071, you have not been majority in East Turkey. And you didn't ever manage to establish a long life state in EAst Anatolia in all history of humanity. And you didn't ever manage to control this region wholly, at all. And now if you think that you get this land back with using AG, but you are wrong, can never succeed it.
                      Whether Armenians were the majority eastern Anatolia or not after 1071 AD, how does this change the fact that it is the Armenian homeland, where the Armenians became and eveloped inot who they were? Did they suddenly dissapear, did the Armenian homeland transfer to Sweden. Infact there were two Armenia states up until the 1500's one in Cilicia and one in Northeastern Anatolia. (Lesser and Greater Armenia or Armenian Major and Armenia Minor)
                      General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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