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Originally posted by MichealDuglasOk lets say Armenians like Turks but Turkey. You dont like Turkey, confess please.
If Turkey pays USD 3.000.00 to every Armenian in the world (ofcourse to those who can prove that their grand parents were murdered in 1915), can something change? Anger of the Armenians does it decrease? I dont think so..Originally posted by phantomIf you really want to know how to change Armenian perspective, here are some ideas for you:
1. Stop denying what really happened to our ancestors;
2. Stop teaching your children that Armenians were traitors that "stabbed your ancestors in the back";
3. Stop destroying the ancient monuments that we built on soil that you now own;
4. Stop blocking the borders between you and your neighbor;
5. Stop coming to our websites and telling us that we're lying, and that everyone who says it was a Genocide is a propogandist;
6. Stop having such closed minds on this issue;
7. Approach us with some humanity rather than cynicism and conspiracy theories.
Give us back our goddamned homeland you illegally usurped from us by exterminating us. That's not fair and manly behavior.
This is nonnegotiable, so don't bother playing around.Four things denialist Turks do when they are confronted with facts:
I. They change the subject [SIZE="1"](e.g. they copy/paste tons of garbage to divert attention).[/SIZE]
II. They project [SIZE="1"](e.g. they replace "Turk" with "Armenian" and vice versa and they regurgitate Armenian history).[/SIZE]
III. They offend [SIZE="1"](e.g. they cuss, threaten and/or mock).[/SIZE]
IV. They shut up and say nothing.
[URL="http://b.imagehost.org/download/0689/azerbaijan-real-fake-absurd.pdf"][COLOR="Red"]A country named Azerbaijan north of the Arax River [B]NEVER[/B] existed before 1918[/COLOR][/URL]
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Originally posted by MichealDuglasWe cannot change the past but the future. What can we do to decrease hate and anger of the Armenians towards Turks?
Originally posted by MichealDuglasIn the short term:
Turkey should lift blockade and can and should initiate negotiation about reperations without accepting AG. Without accepting AG, Turkey can still pay reperations. Why? Because Armenians were citizens of the Ottoman Empire and Ottoman Empire was responsible of their life. AG recognition and reperations are two separate subjects and should be evaluated separately. This is my opinion. Turkey can also apologize for the Armenians whom it couldnot save their life. An offial apology would be smart.However, dont expect AG recognition and land offer, it seems impossible both in the short run and in the long run.
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Originally posted by elendilWe are not giving land or money to anyone. Sorry...
A bunch of thieves breaking into my house, raping, pillaging and killing my family and sitting in my home can never, under any laws in this universe, be considered the owners of my house.Four things denialist Turks do when they are confronted with facts:
I. They change the subject [SIZE="1"](e.g. they copy/paste tons of garbage to divert attention).[/SIZE]
II. They project [SIZE="1"](e.g. they replace "Turk" with "Armenian" and vice versa and they regurgitate Armenian history).[/SIZE]
III. They offend [SIZE="1"](e.g. they cuss, threaten and/or mock).[/SIZE]
IV. They shut up and say nothing.
[URL="http://b.imagehost.org/download/0689/azerbaijan-real-fake-absurd.pdf"][COLOR="Red"]A country named Azerbaijan north of the Arax River [B]NEVER[/B] existed before 1918[/COLOR][/URL]
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ASALA has been dead for more than 20 years!
Originally posted by MichealDuglasTurks dont hate Armenians, they rather are afraid of.It may seem unbelievable but true. None of my friends can register for this forum because they think that if they do that Armenians will find them and kill them. ASALA gave so much damage to the Armenians image that when one says `Armenian` the first thing that comes to mind is ASALA. I am sorry but it will take many years to forget about ASALA.
Give us a break!Four things denialist Turks do when they are confronted with facts:
I. They change the subject [SIZE="1"](e.g. they copy/paste tons of garbage to divert attention).[/SIZE]
II. They project [SIZE="1"](e.g. they replace "Turk" with "Armenian" and vice versa and they regurgitate Armenian history).[/SIZE]
III. They offend [SIZE="1"](e.g. they cuss, threaten and/or mock).[/SIZE]
IV. They shut up and say nothing.
[URL="http://b.imagehost.org/download/0689/azerbaijan-real-fake-absurd.pdf"][COLOR="Red"]A country named Azerbaijan north of the Arax River [B]NEVER[/B] existed before 1918[/COLOR][/URL]
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You better be, because we'll take it. Sooner or later.
A bunch of thieves breaking into my house, raping, pillaging and killing my family and sitting in my home can never, under any laws in this universe, be considered the owners of my house.
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Originally posted by elendilGod am I tired of hollow threats... What you consider us is no matter, we have our lands, we have the will to keep it. No, dont say more on how you will take lands or kick our Tatar asses back to Mongolia, just do it if you have the will.
I'm absolutely sure if there are other intelligent living creatures in this universe, they'll have the same law:
If you steal something from others in the most despicable manner possible, you'll have to pay for it. You'll have to return the property you stole from others. Otherwise an intelligent society cannot exist.
Threatening from behind the monitor is a Turkish symptom and I assure you I'm not suffering from it:
III. They offend (e.g. they cuss, threaten and/or mock).Four things denialist Turks do when they are confronted with facts:
I. They change the subject [SIZE="1"](e.g. they copy/paste tons of garbage to divert attention).[/SIZE]
II. They project [SIZE="1"](e.g. they replace "Turk" with "Armenian" and vice versa and they regurgitate Armenian history).[/SIZE]
III. They offend [SIZE="1"](e.g. they cuss, threaten and/or mock).[/SIZE]
IV. They shut up and say nothing.
[URL="http://b.imagehost.org/download/0689/azerbaijan-real-fake-absurd.pdf"][COLOR="Red"]A country named Azerbaijan north of the Arax River [B]NEVER[/B] existed before 1918[/COLOR][/URL]
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Abdulhamit Han didnt have a paranoia, his aim was only to save the country.
He had nothing against Armenians, his close friends were Armenians that included the ministery of treasury.
If he had paranoia he wouldnt build churches for christian citizens of Ottoman State.
Originally posted by HovikYet another taboo / myth in Turkey?
Didn't Abdul Hamid have such a paranoia?
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Selektor,
somehow you have the idea that you have to be paid attention or people have to give some value to your thoughts, or otherwise they are TUrks diverting from issues.
Selektor dont u understand, your issue is nonsense for us? How much time do u need to get this?
Originally posted by HellektorNo elendil, I'm not threatening. I regret that you take it as a threat. I'm just stating a fact, no sarcasm intended.
I'm absolutely sure if there are other intelligent living creatures in this universe, they'll have the same law:
If you steal something from others in the most despicable manner possible, you'll have to pay for it. You'll have to return the property you stole from others. Otherwise an intelligent society cannot exist.
Threatening from behind the monitor is a Turkish symptom and I assure you I'm not suffering from it:
III. They offend (e.g. they cuss, threaten and/or mock).
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Originally posted by TurQAbdulhamit Han didnt have a paranoia, his aim was only to save the country.
He had nothing against Armenians, his close friends were Armenians that included the ministery of treasury.
If he had paranoia he wouldnt build churches for christian citizens of Ottoman State.
Sure, that's why he is known as the RED sultan.
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