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  • #11
    Originally posted by TurQ
    I have a friend who is of Kurdish origin and from Hakkari, his uncle was murdered by PKK because he refused to pay the so-called PKK tax.
    Are those so-called human rights advocates cared my friend's uncle?
    Back in the days before anyone had even heard of the PKK, I remember talking with a group of archaeo-botanists who had just returned from a trip to Hakkari. Must have been 1986 or 1989. They talked about the widespread low-scale abuse of the local population that the Turkish army was committing daily. Things like beating people up if they spoke Kurdish in public, and forcing people to eat their own excrement.

    If you want to blame anyone for the existance PKK, blame your own army.
    Plenipotentiary meow!

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    • #12
      PKK (formerly APOcular) founded in 1974, PKK name was given in 1984. They started their bloody compaign in 1977-78

      Abuse of the locals is another issue, you know very well that those photos has nothing to do local ordinary people(if they had been true).

      BTW, Kurdish was banned right after 1980 military coup, and now its free again.


      Originally posted by bell-the-cat
      Back in the days before anyone had even heard of the PKK, I remember talking with a group of archaeo-botanists who had just returned from a trip to Hakkari. Must have been 1986 or 1989. They talked about the widespread low-scale abuse of the local population that the Turkish army was committing daily. Things like beating people up if they spoke Kurdish in public, and forcing people to eat their own excrement.

      If you want to blame anyone for the existance PKK, blame your own army.

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      • #13
        TurQ what RUDO posted is all true.

        The Turkish government is denying the Kurds their rights. Cant you critize this? Why cant you just say Turkey is wrong, Turkey should force Kurds to become Turks.

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        • #14
          That photo is fake
          Thats not the issue.

          You and your sort try to white washh PKK and terror, thats the issue

          YOu have to deal with your own problems, about the abuse of Turks and Muslims in Balkans, particularly Bulgaria.

          Why dont you start by condemning the forceful bulgarization of Turks in Bulgaria?


          Originally posted by Bulgarian
          TurQ what RUDO posted is all true.

          The Turkish government is denying the Kurds their rights. Cant you critize this? Why cant you just say Turkey is wrong, Turkey should force Kurds to become Turks.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by TurQ
            That photo is fake
            Thats not the issue.

            You and your sort try to white washh PKK and terror, thats the issue

            YOu have to deal with your own problems, about the abuse of Turks and Muslims in Balkans, particularly Bulgaria.

            Why dont you start by condemning the forceful bulgarization of Turks in Bulgaria?
            I actually voted the PKK as a terror organisation.

            TurQ what happened to the Kurds is just like the Armenian Genocide (to a much lesser extent of course). You need to realise that you cant just move people around. Its not right and it is ethnic cleansing.

            Do you know why? Well firstly moving members of a ethnic group actually constitutes as a genocide. Secondly Turkey moved millions of Kurds out of the south east, to the big cities of the west. Turkey basically reduced the concentration of Kurds in the southeast.

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            • #16
              Look at your history of genocide of Turks and Pomaks in collaboration with Russians during Balkan wars.

              That definetly fits into definition of genocide, first acknowledge that and then speak here.



              Originally posted by Bulgarian
              I actually voted the PKK as a terror organisation.

              TurQ what happened to the Kurds is just like the Armenian Genocide (to a much lesser extent of course). You need to realise that you cant just move people around. Its not right and it is ethnic cleansing.

              Do you know why? Well firstly moving members of a ethnic group actually constitutes as a genocide. Secondly Turkey moved millions of Kurds out of the south east, to the big cities of the west. Turkey basically reduced the concentration of Kurds in the southeast.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by bell-the-cat
                I remember a village I visited near Kagizman. "Evacuated" durng the early 1990s. A couple of dozen people returned in recent years but nobody lives there permanently now. When the soldiers forced everyone to leave they burned down the village school. They even cut down the wooden poles carrying the telephone and electricity cables, to make sure the village would never be re-settled.
                When I was living in Diyarbakır,I even saw soldiers burning a whole village.Whole village was evacuated and burned down.

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                • #18
                  I about the evacuation of the villages in south east, it is not an ethnic cleansing policy, though I dont support the way that issue is handled, it can not be labeled as "ethnic cleansing",
                  It was assimilation and assimilation resulted in ethnic cleansing.And unfortunately I am one of them who are assimilated.Assimilation is kind way of ethnic cleansing.And genocide is the bad way.Right,TurQ?

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                  • #19
                    TurQ what happened to the Kurds is just like the Armenian Genocide (to a much lesser extent of course). You need to realise that you cant just move people around. Its not right and it is ethnic cleansing.
                    I agree with you totally.Kurds almost suffered the same things.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by yigitp91
                      dont say anythn about kurds and pkk...pkk is the terrorist group and we will kill them until their nation is finished ok??? Please dont mess with the turks thats all!!!!
                      Yes, killing all the Kurds has been working well for you so I suppose that's why there really is no Kurdish problem in Turkey today.
                      General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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