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Bush's Nominee for new ambassador to Armenia has Publicly Denied the Genocide.

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  • #71
    I have to agree but Vahe Jan, you have to remember that this forum isn't prepared to allow every nationalist in through its doors, many problems will arise. Check out some other forums that allow everyone in and you'll get a better idea of why people are being banned. I hope there will be a place though one day where we will all be able to be prepared for difficult conversation. Your right.
    THE ROAD TO FREEDOM AND JUSTICE IS A LONG ONE!

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    • #72
      Originally posted by Saco View Post
      I have to agree but Vahe Jan, you have to remember that this forum isn't prepared to allow every nationalist in through its doors, many problems will arise. Check out some other forums that allow everyone in and you'll get a better idea of why people are being banned. I hope there will be a place though one day where we will all be able to be prepared for difficult conversation. Your right.
      You see it all depends what is the purpose of forum:
      I think,if it is for involving third party (non turks and non Armenians) than I understand selectiveness of it as turks can be really ugly….
      But if it is to build conversation bitwin turks and Armenians than banning this guys away is not very smart as THIS KIND OF PEOPLE REPRESENT 99% OF TURKISH PEPOLE. I think there must be straight ruls of banning (for example: if they get to offensive, or extremely not constructive) and by rules they can be always banned….
      I have been there... I have seen ruins of St. Karapet!

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      • #73
        Originally posted by VaheTheGreat(e) View Post
        Is it really that good: globalization?
        Yes, but as with all things there is too much of a good thing. However globalization does bring people together in trade and culture, so I think globalization is a good and positive thing, it only gets bad when foreign companies act badly and hurt people in the countries they exist in.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by VaheTheGreat(e) View Post
          10 Sep 2008 15:55 ]
          Yerevan – APA. Armenia will start selling electricity to Turkey as from 2009, Armenia’s Energy and Natural Resources Minister Armen Movsisyan said, APA reports quoting Novosti-Armenia agency.
          So much on energy, economy and recourses... LOL
          Aha, I bet it's the wrong type of electricity!

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          • #75
            Originally posted by steph View Post
            Aha, I bet it's the wrong type of electricity!
            LOL, man, that was really funny.....
            I have been there... I have seen ruins of St. Karapet!

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            • #76
              Originally posted by VaheTheGreat(e) View Post
              THIS KIND OF PEOPLE REPRESENT 99% OF TURKISH PEPOLE.
              Isn't this statement injustice?

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              • #77
                It is Arda but I don't think Vahe meant literally 99%, he just means the majority. If he meant 99% then he's simply wrong.
                THE ROAD TO FREEDOM AND JUSTICE IS A LONG ONE!

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by ardakilic View Post
                  Isn't this statement injustice?
                  what % would you put it at Arda? really, I'm not being sarcastic,but 95,90, 85%?

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by ardakilic View Post
                    Isn't this statement injustice?
                    Is n´t that reality injustice?
                    I have been there... I have seen ruins of St. Karapet!

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by VaheTheGreat(e)
                      Is n´t that reality injustice?
                      I don't suppose that it is funny and it is not the reality. Maybe you are curious about how much of Turkish population is ignorant of historical facts. There is a research on awareness of Turkish people about history: in a part of the research, young people are asked some historical events and % 73 of them answered wrong.

                      And much more interesting research: Kevork Bogosian and Ferhat Kentel made a research about how two societies see each other:

                      What do you think about Turks/Armenians?

                      Turks
                      Negative: 30.8 %
                      Very negative: 6.6 %

                      Armenians
                      Negative: 47.2 %
                      Very negative: 27.8 %

                      "I don't marry with a Turk/Armenian", do you agree?

                      Turks
                      Yes: 68.1 %

                      Armenians
                      Yes: 94.1 %

                      Important note: According to me, these results doesnot imply that Armenians have more prejudice. Because, the only "enemy" for Armenian nationalistic imagination is Turk. His/her identity is formed by this hate and it is based on persecution, especially Genocide. On the other hand, Turkish nationalistic imagination is so rich to produce "enemies" (Greek, Western powers, Arabs, Kurds and Turkish opponents...) and not persecuted dismissing the 'fact' that Turks suffered Armenian bands.

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