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  • #11
    Originally posted by steph View Post
    Varouj,
    I'm certainly not avoiding the main purpose of the forum, simply responding to a post.
    What do you mean by softening people up??
    I asked for assistance a few days ago regarding my own research into the Genocide, no replies so far.
    soooooo, I'll respond to , what I believed , to be an honest statement.

    My reason to ne on this forum is :
    I'm trying to gather information about the Turkish invasion of Eastern Armenia at the end of WW1 and the contibutions made to their success by the Bolshevik, British, French and American governments.
    However, if you dislike the idea of discussion and investigation and wish only to reproduce items from the world's media, so be it.

    Varouj, your comments have hurt me, your pictogram looks very impressive, especially when you're probably in CA.

    Actually it was my impression that his comments were directed at Goarave, not you. But maybe I'm wrong... (Varouj using quotes would help clear up the confusion in future posts)

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    • #12
      Hovik,
      My point, and bear with me here, is that whilst the Armenian Genocide is a widely accepted FACT, for me the importance lies in the WHY?

      No-one accepts that an entire race can be evil inherently, however, evil individuals and groups using intensive and powerful indoctrination against minorities in their midst produce these results.

      We can never turn back the clock, but must try to learn from the past... or it will repeat itself again and again. Witness the 20th Century's First Genocide, how many more since ?? WW1 , The War to End All Wars???

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      • #13
        Originally posted by steph View Post
        Hovik,
        My point, and bear with me here, is that whilst the Armenian Genocide is a widely accepted FACT, for me the importance lies in the WHY?

        No-one accepts that an entire race can be evil inherently, however, evil individuals and groups using intensive and powerful indoctrination against minorities in their midst produce these results.

        We can never turn back the clock, but must try to learn from the past... or it will repeat itself again and again. Witness the 20th Century's First Genocide, how many more since ?? WW1 , The War to End All Wars???
        steph, I totally follow you, and agree with the concept you're discussing. I was just saying I think Varouj was directing whatever he said that set you off at someone else, because you seemed to take it personally.

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        • #14
          Peace, Unity, Love- I wish

          Steph, You are truly wise.
          To others,
          I am not here to soften up any body. I clearly stated my position in this forum. I seek world peace. I believe problems need solutions, but solutions always seem to breed more problems. I am not here to argue my points but seek different perspectives from live individuals. Somehow, I had encountered the same impression in a different thread, where i have written back a similar post. If you guys cannot bear a peacefully talking individual, what can i do?

          One God, One Nation:Planet Earth, One Race: Human

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          • #15
            Originally posted by GOARAVE View Post
            Steph, You are truly wise.
            To others,
            I am not here to soften up any body. I clearly stated my position in this forum. I seek world peace. I believe problems need solutions, but solutions always seem to breed more problems. I am not here to argue my points but seek different perspectives from live individuals. Somehow, I had encountered the same impression in a different thread, where i have written back a similar post. If you guys cannot bear a peacefully talking individual, what can i do?

            One God, One Nation:Planet Earth, One Race: Human
            Goarave, welcome to the forum. I understand that the underlying theory behind your 'world peace' ideal is that we Turks and Armenians should start talking right? Aside from that do you have a specific plan for how we would reach peace...?

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Hovik View Post
              Goarave, welcome to the forum. I understand that the underlying theory behind your 'world peace' ideal is that we Turks and Armenians should start talking right? Aside from that do you have a specific plan for how we would reach peace...?
              His plan seems to consist of Armenians keeping their mouths shut and accept the status quo.
              General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Joseph View Post
                His plan seems to consist of Armenians keeping their mouths shut and accept the status quo.
                And Turks such as himself keeping their heads in the sand and not attempting to understand his and our mutual history.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by 1.5 million View Post
                  And Turks such as himself keeping their heads in the sand and not attempting to understand his and our mutual history.

                  Our struggle is not hatred but justice. They seem to expect our dhimmitude.
                  General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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                  • #19
                    Maybe I'm getting the wrong impression, but isn't he actually trying to find a solution and not hiding himself from the truth?

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Katya
                      Maybe I'm getting the wrong impression, but isn't he actually trying to find a solution and not hiding himself from the truth?
                      I think your getting the wrong impression.

                      BTW - I have a solution for peace in Iraq - all those Muslims with guns and bombs need to throw them down a well. Are you with me on this one?

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