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  • #71
    Cem ,
    Do you think those people who painted a target on Mr.Dink will be censured at all in some way?if not maybe all of us Armenians should invest 500YTL in some justice!
    "All truth passes through three stages:
    First, it is ridiculed;
    Second, it is violently opposed; and
    Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

    Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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    • #72
      Originally posted by Gavur View Post
      Cem ,
      Do you think those people who painted a target on Mr.Dink will be censured at all in some way?if not maybe all of us Armenians should invest 500YTL in some justice!
      sure. they are being censured in the same way. i think that our parliament will make a modification to the nonsense law of 301 in the following weeks as a result.

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      • #73
        Well they were going to do the "modification" anyways but were waiting for after elections.
        "All truth passes through three stages:
        First, it is ridiculed;
        Second, it is violently opposed; and
        Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

        Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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        • #74
          please kindly note that even most nationalist party is blaming government for not reassuring hrant dink

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          • #75
            Originally posted by cem
            please kindly note that even most nationalist party is blaming government for not reassuring hrant dink
            The nationalist politicans and journalists are crying pathetic crocodile tears. They are merely embarrassed and doing damage control for Turkey. If anything, they will be relieved and happy when the anger blows over and they don't have Hrant Dink to contend with anymore. They are making the arbitrary comments that one must make when such murders occur. We've posted some of the commentaries on this website from such individuals. They are insulting to Armenians and it would have been better if they had written and/or said nothing at all. They are far more worried about the outside perception of Turkey than about actual justice. They are hypocrites and this only adds to our anger. Slogans, marches, and false optimism are meaningless.
            General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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            • #76
              Originally posted by spirit View Post
              OK, I'm leaving this forum, my first visit here was to see if Armenians have the same pain like Turks after Hrant Dink assasination.
              But what I saw is only "hate", "intolerance" , "egoism" and "empty words" .

              I hope GOD helps you...
              Au revoir.

              How empty are your words. You'll never understand the pain of Armenians. They are considered foreginers and outsiders in their own lands. Your state is founded on the cornerstone of fascism and intolerance of "the other".
              General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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              • #77
                Originally posted by spirit View Post
                My wise 1.5 million, what do you know about any kind of genocide? I'm an immigrant from Bulgaria in 1989, do you have any idea about the deal?

                As a 7 years old boy:

                Do you know how it feels to be minority in a foreign country?
                Do you know how it feels to have same fear everyday to loose your father ?
                Do you know how it feels to have two names, Turkish at home, Bulgarian at school?
                Do you know how it feels to live your religion by hiding?
                Do you know how it feels to inability to call your mum with her own name?
                Do you know how it feels to wait for a nurse who checks your penis to see if it's cut everyweek?
                Do you know how it feels to look behind your father when he was taken by police just because of his nationality?
                Do you know how it feels to hear your father's death?

                I know these all, and I feel what you feel ...
                -Do you know what it's like to be considered foreigner in your own land?
                -Yes
                -Yes. As do Armenians still in Turkey
                -Yes. As do Armenians in Turkey
                -Yes. As do Armenians in Turkey
                - Not so much with the penis thing
                -Yes as do many Armenians and other minorities in Turkey
                -Yes. As do Armenians in Turkey
                General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by spirit View Post
                  So this is your point of human life... You mean " why should I care about my enemy's people, their children, their women, their values...I only care about me..."

                  WHAT A RACISM !!! HOW COULD YOU GREW UP FULL OF HATE LIKE THIS?

                  Hope GOD helps you...
                  Hypocrisy.

                  I would say the most virulent form of racism is genocide. There is no greater crime and insult to a people than to utterly destroy them and cast them out form their homeland, call them traitors, and then cover it up. You could try to be more racist than that but you would fail.

                  More and more people are coming to realize this.

                  You grew up in a society with a sanitized history where we did not exist except as your enemy. That is racism.

                  Not having sympathy for people who have murdered your family members is common sense.
                  General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by spirit View Post
                    Why are you so stick to Jews, why don't you defence your thesis with your own facts... But what you are doing is just "somebody did this, somebody did that..."

                    Please depend on yourself...
                    So Jews are not good enough for you? Are you an anti-semite too?

                    How about my previous examples:

                    -Koreans mourning Japanese casualties during WWII
                    - Bosnians mourning Serbian losses
                    -Tutsis mourning Hutus

                    I can add more if you like?
                    General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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                    • #80
                      General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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