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  • #61
    Originally posted by Khorovatz View Post
    Kurds want eastern Turkey?! Those lands rightfully belong to Armenia and Kurds not even in their sweetest dreams will ever lay hand to those lands that rightfully belong to Armenians.

    Kurds enjoy kissing butt to Armenians, because they have NO ONE in this world that supports their magical world of "Kurdistan". Turks, Iranians, and Iraqi's (Sunni's and Shia's) all have issues and conflicts with Kurds even today! Maybe they should be pointing the finger at themselves.

    Kurds enjoy using Armenians as a defensive mean when they verbally attack Turkey. They are trying to ally themselves with us, to use us against the Turks.

    Armenians should never ally themselves with Kurds nor Turks. Their brutality and hostility against Armenians will never be forgotten.

    In 1894, in the village of Sassun (next to Mush; 40 miles west of Lake Van), Kurdish savages destroyed and raped Armenian villages. They brutally massacred Armenians. Not because "Turks told them to" but because of the rich resources that were in of Sassun and the Kurds were envy and jealous of those Armenian lands.

    Thanks to General Antranig, we were able to defend ourselves against the Kurds and Turks.

    Kurds have been wanting Armenian lands since 1894. By supporting an independent "Kurdistan", we are actually betraying our ancestors. We are finishing where the Kurds left-off.
    I don't think it's helpfull to generalize any peoples.
    "All truth passes through three stages:
    First, it is ridiculed;
    Second, it is violently opposed; and
    Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

    Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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    • #62
      The ASALA never recognized a "Kurdistan", they just used the PKK as another way to attack the Turks. A very short-lived "co-operation" that Armenians have denounced.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Gavur View Post
        I don't think it's helpfull to generalize any peoples.
        I agree for the most part. All of us do it to at least some degree. While the Kurds did most of the murdering on behalf of Abdul Hamid and then the CUP, they have recognized their role and apologized for it.
        General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Joseph View Post
          I agree for the most part. All of us do it to at least some degree. While the Kurds did most of the murdering on behalf of Abdul Hamid and then the CUP, they have recognized their role and apologized for it.
          I believe it was Ocalan that issued this apology. However, I think the real test will be an official state recognition...that is when Kurdistan becomes a de jure state.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Joseph View Post
            I agree for the most part. All of us do it to at least some degree. While the Kurds did most of the murdering on behalf of Abdul Hamid and then the CUP, they have recognized their role and apologized for it.


            Inch apology?

            Apologizing = giving lands to Armenia/recognizing that lands belong to Armenia!

            The last time I checked, when a "nation" makes an apology for a genocide, they make amends by paying reparations in money and land.

            The Kurds "apologized" but they have not backed down from recognizing the obvious fact that those lands rightfully belong to ARMENIA!

            They are claiming Eastern Turkey as their own land based on their own imaginary historic analysis. Kurds strongly believe that Eastern Turkey is historical Kurdistan.

            Eastern Turkey belongs to Armenia, period. History proves it and scholars prove it.

            The last time I checked, Kurds have not given reparations for their crimes against humanity. Do you think an apology statement will mean forgiveness by Armenians? Blood will not be justified by pen and paper.

            Please convince a Tashag (Dashnak) to forgive Kurds for the blood that they have shed.

            You will fail.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Khorovatz View Post
              Inch apology?

              Apologizing = giving lands to Armenia/recognizing that lands belong to Armenia!

              The last time I checked, when a "nation" makes an apology for a genocide, they make amends by paying reparations in money and land.

              The Kurds "apologized" but they have not backed down from recognizing the obvious fact that those lands rightfully belong to ARMENIA!

              They are claiming Eastern Turkey as their own land based on their own imaginary historic analysis. Kurds strongly believe that Eastern Turkey is historical Kurdistan.

              Eastern Turkey belongs to Armenia, period. History proves it and scholars prove it.

              The last time I checked, Kurds have not given reparations for their crimes against humanity. Do you think an apology statement will mean forgiveness by Armenians? Blood will not be justified by pen and paper.

              Please convince a Tashag (Dashnak) to forgive Kurds for the blood that they have shed.

              You will fail.
              You seem to have the "Tashak"s of a sperm whale.

              Originally posted by Khorovatz View Post
              Eastern Turkey belongs to Armenia, period.
              Yeah right.... You must be reading a lot of Tolkien lately...

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              • #67
                Khorovatz, toon oor deghen es, yev oor deghen hayren sorvetzar? Yev inch oo as Kurdere ches seerer?

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by hitite
                  You seem to have the "Tashak"s of a sperm whale.

                  Yeah right.... You must be reading a lot of Tolkien lately...
                  I don't appreciate sappy humor. Someone with your Intelligence level would find this subject entertaining and funny.

                  Without the Tashnaks, your ancestors would of completely been wiped off the map of the world at the hands of the Turks and Kurds.

                  At least I know the trashy history of the Turkish scums. They are related to the barbaric savages known as the Mongolians.

                  But the Kurds don't even know who they are. Now, that's entertainment. They claim "Kurdistan" yet they bicker at each other about their history.

                  Within their community of 20 million people, they till this day argue with each other about where and who they originate from.

                  One Kurd will say Medes. The other will say Hurrians. The other will say neither. The other will say both. One of them will say they come from the mountainous regions of Turkey. The other will say the mountainous regions of Iran. Blah..blah blah blah blah.

                  Is it the Medes? the Indo-Europeans? The Hurrians? The Persians?

                  Why is the Kurdish language related to Farsi (Persian)?

                  Is this why they are not given a land? Or is it because in every country they reside in, they eventually throw fits and create barbarism.

                  Why are the Yzedi Kurds in Armenia angry at Armenians? Do they want a small chunk of Armenia?

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Joseph View Post
                    I agree for the most part. All of us do it to at least some degree. While the Kurds did most of the murdering on behalf of Abdul Hamid and then the CUP, they have recognized their role and apologized for it.
                    It is easy to apologise when you have nothing to loose, and no electorate to placate. Do you think Kurds are any less ignorant of the truth or less brainwashed than Turks? If those doing the "apologising" accompanied it with educating their fellow countrymen about the whole truth of what their ancestors did, then maybe the apology would be real.
                    Plenipotentiary meow!

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Khorovatz View Post
                      Why are the Yzedi Kurds in Armenia angry at Armenians? Do they want a small chunk of Armenia?
                      Who says Yesidi so-called "Kurds" are angry at Armenians? Unless they are angry at Armenians insulting them by calling them "Kurds"!
                      Plenipotentiary meow!

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