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I'm not sure of his intentions yet. Is he an angel or a devil?General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.” -
My Mama is Armenian
I m not angel and devil...my mama is armenian.But i m Turks..Originally posted by Joseph View Post
Don't make deviation real,Turk and the armenians are the friend...1000 years together, live...
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1,000 years of Armenian/Christian dhimmitude with widepsread massacre,occasional genocide but thank you for the link all the same.Originally posted by raltinbasGeneral Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”Comment
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Your are a Turkish citizen, but you also have Armenian blood. You are both. That's great! And it's also great that Turks and Armenians are friends inside your family. But would a friend kill his friend's family and then put his friend in jail for complaining about it? That's what Turkey does to its citizens who speak of the Armenian Genocide, isn't that true?Originally posted by raltinbasComment
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I WITNESSED and LIVED THROUGH
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After watching the video again i realized there was a car(how did i miss thatOriginally posted by raltinbas View Post
) in the church in the beginning of the video.Did you made that video or you just wanted to piss of the people here on the forum?
Lets see what your intentions actually are by joining this forum....Comment
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From his last email I recently deleted, I found out full well what his intentions were. Another Turk claiming to be part Armenian but spreading denialist propaganda. We get these from time to time. I know Armenians from Turkey, in fact my wife is one. I have yet to meet a denialist among them. The closest they get is that saying that the issue should be left in the past because they live in fear of Turkish reprisal but they never, ever deny the Genocide. Additonally, an Armenian would never use an Ataturk avatar. If nothing else, that should have given it away. My apologies to the rest of the membership for not picking up on this.Originally posted by Alexandros View PostAfter watching the video again i realized there was a car(how did i miss that) in the church in the beginning of the video.Did you made that video or you just wanted to piss of the people here on the forum?
Lets see what your intentions actually are by joining this forum....
Additionally, he claimed his mom was Armenian and from Kayseri. I should have seen through this but I gave him the benefit of the doubt. Kayseri (Cesarea) happened to be one of the places you would be least likely in Turkey come upon an Armenian or someone claiming to be Armenian nor will you come upon many Armenians today with any lineage from there. For generations, the Turks in Kayseri had such an intense hate for Armenians that bordered on pathological. During the Genocide, the Turks so eradicated the Armenian population there and took such pride from it that nary an Armenian was even sucessful in hiding from the outright slaughter by their Turkish neighbors or even a child able to avoid being sent in a death caravan towards Mamuret -al- Aziz. And the Turks claim that Armenians were only massacred and deported from areas near the frontline (as if this is something to be proud about) but just look at Kayseri's location on a map and you realize just how asinine and incredulous a lie that is.
I too noticed the car parked in the church. That is how Turks treat Christian churches there.
raltibas, you are gone and will soon be forgotten.General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”Comment
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Originally posted by Joseph View Post
In his last post he had written something like "Lífe is like a....." which isn`t of course hard to understand what he was trying to say.Anyway, good to see that he`s gone.Comment
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How clever of him. Just another eshek from the land of the ulusalci.Originally posted by AlexandrosGeneral Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”Comment
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It is interesting to note that this Turkish denier Raltinbas (or maybe a mercenary-netsurfer), has put his message just after mine N#18 :
which invites Armenian Associations and Churches to a most important step : to contact "The European Council for Fatwa and Research". It is really time to contact such high level Islamic Instutions all around the world.
Ankara does not want such a crucial religious and spiritual step. At least, we can begin it on our local and regional scales for our each national country where we live. For us, it is more important to put energy in contacting such organizations than to spend time to debate on a falsified video.
One day (without dreaming) we shall get to the highest level : at the level of "The Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC)". This must be an aim, not a dream :
What happened in 1915, is not only a crime against Humanity but is also a crime against Islam. Innocent families of dhimmis were slaugtered regardless of Sharia law ("dhimmis" means protected in Arabic language of the Coran).
Faïez El-Ghocein, who was a sincere muslim and a direct witness of the exterminations, says : "This a crime which Humanity, Islam and all the Muslims disaprouve ; but those who ignore the truth, will not miss to throw responsability onto religious fanatism".
["C’est un crime que désapprouve l’humanité, l’islam et tous les musulmans ; mais ceux qui ignorent la vérité ne manqueront pas d’en jeter la responsabilité sur le fanatisme religieux." page 52 of his testimony : http://www.crda-france.org/0ab/x9_faiezelghocein.htm ]
We must denounce that the instrumentalization and the criminal exploitation of the declaration of Jihad of november (14)23 1914 as being anti-islamic :
At the level of The Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC), I had create a page :
Here is a rough translation :
The Organization of the Islamic Conference is to our knowledge the only organization to state and international levels to be with religious caracteristics.
The caracteristics of other organizations can be
. geographical (Organization of American States, European Union, etc.),
. military (NATO) ,
. historical-political (Commonwealth, CEI),
. political-cultural (League of Arab States), cultural (UNESCO)
. or social-professional (World Health Organization, etc.)
. etc...
This religious basis the O.I.C. gives -or must give- a timeless dimension of unniversality and peace to it. This dimension is inspired by the message of divine breath -as Vatican wants to be also. But as being the last revealed religion and Islam wanting to integrate the former ones, OIC cannot miss by its own islamic conscience to get one day on a debate on the Armenian Genocide de 1915 : the Armenian Genocide which is -before all- a crime against Humanity, a crime against Islam.
Nil V. Agopoff (Paris)
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