It Is Time To Contact (Non-Turkish) Muslim Associations For 1915 Genocide Recognition

[Pedro Xaramillo]

Actually

1915 Genocide By The Young-Turk Government ?
A Crime Against Islam.

Turkish State Denial For More than 90 Years ?
A Loss Of Islamic Spirituality By Kemalist Ideology.

http://www.crda-france.org/0ab/x9_faiezcoran.htm

Though wars, we must not forget that we, Armenians, had for centuries, rich and constructive cultural relations with Arab-Persian-Moghul Islam :

http://www.crda-france.org/fr/breligion/islam/1dialogue_hay_islam.htm

Here is a recent letter to the Grand Mufti of Syria, Damascus, Friday, 10/3/2006 By Dr. Nora Arissian : http://www.azad-hye.net/news/viewnew...ewsId=112ass92

This letter in Arabic in search : http://www.azad-hye.org/

www page on researcher Nora Arissian (Syria) :

http://www.crda-france.org/fr/2armenologie/etudes2arissian.htm

Nil
Important website on Christian-Islam Dialogue : http://www.mec-churches.org/main_eng.htm
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There was a substancial Armenian Muslim minority (although never a majority) , not just Hamshen I mean, I read it of a website, will say where it is when I find it again. Anyway most of them got slaughtered during the Genocide as well. Alot of Hamshen survived due to Turkey lost the war and people were watching them with reading glasses. However it still didn't stop Turkey to put in Apartheid policies against Hamshen (only recently a movie was released in the Hamshen language) and Kurds.

[CRDA-France]

If anyone here wants translation I speak Spanish fluently.

Thankyou Pedro.

I hope to find my photocopies of an article published in spanish in 1956 in the Spanish review "Al-Andalus" :
Ibn al-Baytar en armeno, by César Dubler, Al-Andalus (Madrid-Granada, 1956).

When I find the photocopies done 20 years ago, I shall scan and put them on the web. It would be better if you can type the article, translate it into English and put it here in the forum.

It is about the Armenian manuscript translated from an Arabic text of Andalus physician-pharmacist Ibn al-Baytar (1197-1248) :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_al-Baitar

http://baheyeldin.com/history/ibn-al-baytar.html

http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&q=Ibn%20al-Baytar&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wp

http://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A7%D8%A8%D9%86_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%B7%D8%A7%D8%B1

There is such an Armenian manuscript in the National Library of Paris. It's very moving.

Nil

http://www.crda-france.org/0ab/x5_medecine0.htm

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[Pedro Xaramillo]

Okay

Thankyou Pedro.

I hope to find my photocopies of an article published in spanish in 1956 in the Spanish review "Al-Andalus" :
Ibn al-Baytar en armeno, by César Dubler, Al-Andalus (Madrid-Granada, 1956).

When I find the photocopies done 20 years ago, I shall scan and put them on the web. It would be better if you can type the article, translate it into English and put it here in the forum.

It is about the Armenian manuscript translated from an Arabic text of Andalus physician-pharmacist Ibn al-Baytar (1197-1248) :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_al-Baitar

http://baheyeldin.com/history/ibn-al-baytar.html

http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&q=Ibn%20al-Baytar&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wp

http://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A7%D8%A8%D9%86_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%B7%D8%A7%D8%B1

There is such an Armenian manuscript in the National Library of Paris. It's very moving.

Nil

http://www.crda-france.org/0ab/x5_medecine0.htm

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When you find the article in Spanish, post it and I'll translate it and post it back here (if the mods of course are okay with it)

[CRDA-France]

When you find the article in Spanish, post it and I'll translate it and post it back here (if the mods of course are okay with it)

Pedro, I found the 6 pages article which I had photocopied 20 years ago ...years are passing bye so quickly. I have scanned the pages this afternoon and have formated them this evening.

Here are the pages :

http://www.crda-france.org/0sp/6baytar1956_120.htm

Happy reading. Best regards. Nil (Paris).

http://www.crda-france.org/0sp/home.htm

#4565

[CRDA-France]

In the Armenian history and Culture, there is a very important potentiel regarding the Arabs. Here are 8 pages of a bibliography about the relations with the Caliphate by late missed Professor Aram Ter Ghevondian of the Armenian National Academy :

http://www.crda-france.org/0hh/2armenologie01/arab125.htm

Nil (Paris, France)
# 4590

[CRDA-France]

19 pages in Jpg-Armenian on the historical relations of Armenians with Indonesia :

http://www.crda-france.org/0hh/6_asie2/b293indonesia.htm

Please make inform the American-Indonesian Associations. You can also inform Obama's sister whose father was Indonesian. She lives in Hawaii.

Nil (Paris)

http://www.crda-france.org/0ab/b_0home.htm

#4683

[CRDA-France]

Armenians had important relations with Muslim India, the Moghul Empire : Penjab (Lahore, Dehli), with Agra and Bengal.

Here is an important book :

History Of The Armenians In India By Mesrovb J. Seth first published in 1937 and then in 1992. It is now in Books.Google :

http://books.google.com/books?id=WmSWcruCGVEC

This book is a precious basis for access to Pakistani American Associations.

Here is also a page about the firman of the Nawab of Madras giving the permission to Harootyoun Shmavonian )Aztarar) to print books in Persian and in Arabic :

http://www.crda-france.org/fr/6histoire/par_pays/inde_madras1.htm

Nil
Photos of the Armenian Church of Dacca (Bengladesh)

http://www.yevrobatsi.org/st/item_report.php?r=7&id=197

#4761

[CRDA-France]

"... the annihilation of the whole people, men and women, old men and children, in way which revolts all humanity and more especially Islam and the whole body of Moslems, as those unacquainted with the true facts might impute these deeds to Mohammedan fanaticism."


Martyred Armenia, by Faiez el-Ghusein, Bedouin notable of Damascus, Translated from the Original Arabic, London 1917, p.52

Nil

http://www.crda-france.org/0ab/9_0home.htm

#4778

[CRDA-France]

Testimonies of two actual Egyptian diplomats on the Armenian Contribution to Medieval and modern Egypt :

http://www.crda-france.org/0ab/6_egyptzeitlian.htm

Nil (Paris, France)
#4920

[lal]

In the Armenian history and Culture, there is a very important potentiel regarding the Arabs. Here are 8 pages of a bibliography about the relations with the Caliphate by late missed Professor Aram Ter Ghevondian of the Armenian National Academy :

http://www.crda-france.org/0hh/2armenologie01/arab125.htm

Nil (Paris, France)
# 4590

The Koran instructs not to make friendship with Jews and Christians (Koran 5:51) but to war against them: "When the Sacred Months are over, kill those who ascribe partners to God wheresoever ye find them; seize them, encompass them, and ambush them; then if they repent and observe prayer and pay the alms, let them go their way (Koran 4:5).

İf you want, ı can send you tens of surahs full of violance.

Muhammed who wrote these, is a full desert Arab my friend ,not a Turk. Arabs converted Turks to islam from shamanizm and Turks became the best muslims.

İf you tell me that muslims are so good friends with armenians today,that they are acting against Turkey in any subject,even a very small one, ı lough at this.

This can only happen in individual levels.Or in the past, in the beginning days of Arab s freedom.

you are not familiar with islam sprit or ummah. Do you know that turkey is included to Arab leage as an observer --the only muslim country--and the president of islamic orginization is a Turk. name is something like OİC.

I will not go into a typical dog fight of a turk shouting slogans how strong we are and how weak armenians are and so and so.But ı cant hold myself when you choose islam as an ally which ı am personally disgusted with.***Main reason for my hatered is the Kurans attitude against women***

But ı respect to Armenians who choose to war against turks for ever in every level. This is a choice and ı cant change it. İndividuals thinking this way can have nothing to talk accept making a mouth fight. Turkey will go on trying to harm Armenia Republic and Diaspora Armenians will go on propaganda against Turkey. May be this is the rule of nature ,ı dont know.

But I personally prefer to search for a dialog with open minded Armenian people which ı can tell my personal opinions and listen theirs. I am not defending or attacking anything. And if you read me before,you will see that ı do admit the genocide.