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  • #11
    Originally posted by hitite View Post
    Christianity is 600 years ahead in its evolution and normalisation. Its religious, sectarian, political wars and bloodshed took place in the previous centuries. It is over now. There is relative peace within and among the Christian world and any future war within this community most probably will not be based on relgion.

    Islam like Christianity and unlike Judaism is an evangelist religion. It wishes to spread by force or by persuasion just like Christianity. However it is yet to go through this bloodshed and/or normalisation. It has started. You can see Sunni against Shiite against Alevi in Turkey and Iraq. Any weakening in the dictatorships of other Islamic countries will give rise to similar sectarian conflicts in addition to the strife bettwen Islamic and modern.

    So how to marginalise Islam, as lal says, its a sit and wait thing. The process has just started...
    But can we afford to wait for 600 years 'til it gets to the same state of evolution as Christianity. Catholics v Protestants only had swords and arrows to kill each other. Sunni and Shiite have machine guns bombs, missiles, and more.
    Plenipotentiary meow!

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    • #12
      No, we can't afford it, which is why our governments must act immediately.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Flora Korkis View Post
        No, we can't afford it, which is why our governments must act immediately.
        Hi Flora, how would you suggest they act?

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        • #14
          Originally posted by steph View Post
          Hi Flora, how would you suggest they act?
          The first way to act is through education, and especially for the women in Muslim-dominant countries. You see, generally, in these places, they do not allow for women to have a proper education, which leads them to their false, undying love for Islam. They must provide a way for the women to safely get out of the countries as well. We all know that a good portion of Islam is about man power, and once they lose that power, many of their plans will fall out of place.

          This is a portion, but I believe it should be the first step. Ignorance is what breeds hate, and the lack of ignorance breeds true purpose.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
            But can we afford to wait for 600 years 'til it gets to the same state of evolution as Christianity. Catholics v Protestants only had swords and arrows to kill each other. Sunni and Shiite have machine guns bombs, missiles, and more.
            It may not take 600 years for this very reason. If it took 600 years with bows, arrows, no phones and satellites it may take a lot less for the ignorant herd of Muslims to slap themselves and eachother in the face and come to their senses with all this globalisation and internet going on.

            Unless you wanna nuke 'em and solve the problem for good

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            • #16
              Originally posted by hitite View Post
              It may not take 600 years for this very reason. If it took 600 years with bows, arrows, no phones and satellites it may take a lot less for the ignorant herd of Muslims to slap themselves and eachother in the face and come to their senses with all this globalisation and internet going on.

              Unless you wanna nuke 'em and solve the problem for good
              ..... that would probably create even more problems.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by lal View Post
                Armenians are doing their best to harm turkey.may be, they think they are successful about it, but they are wrong,they simply cant harm turkey, even a little bit.
                lal
                I see you completely missjudge Armenian actions,putting outside pressure on Turkey has been good medicine for it,and we have been sucessfull at that ,which is the goal of likeminded Armenians.
                "All truth passes through three stages:
                First, it is ridiculed;
                Second, it is violently opposed; and
                Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

                Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Gavur View Post
                  I see you completely missjudge Armenian actions,putting outside pressure on Turkey has been good medicine for it,and we have been sucessfull at that ,which is the goal of likeminded Armenians.
                  She got it about right. Except for the "armenians let themselves to be used by some people" bit. That's an old Turkish myth: Armenians let themselves be used in the 19th century by the European Powers, Armenians let themselves be used in WW1 by the Russians, Armenians let themselves be used in the 1970s by the Soviet Union, and so on.
                  Plenipotentiary meow!

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                  • #19
                    I'm guessing you're not Armenian, eh bell-the-cat?

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Flora Korkis View Post
                      I'm guessing you're not Armenian, eh bell-the-cat?
                      Cats (and chinchillas) don't belong to any ethnic groups.

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