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    All Empires Are Evil

    lets get this straight:

    ALL EMPIRES ARE EVIL

    there are no exception, not even for the osmanli ottoman turkish.

    you can bring up all kinds of examples of how wonderful the millet cattle (people) were treated and give an example of this or that self-hating ermeni:

    oh, look at how nice they were to those little ermeni! they even put one in charge of the navy's camera shop. another one was allowed to copy the sultan's signature for him! the ottoman empire was the nicest, sweetest kindest place for our little ermeni millet.

    YOU MUST BE ON CRACK

    life sucked for 99.999999% of armenians in the ottoman empire from beginning to end. there is only one word to say to that pack of lies:

    SIKTIR!!

    isn't it so typical of those who defend an evil empire that they make these pathetic lies, excuses, and rationalizations.

    no sane person can tell me the crushing weight of an empire that denies all of your simplest human rights is something they would want.

    3rd, 4th, or 5th

    below second class "citizenship". its not citizenship - its being a subject. a subject is basically property owned by the empire. a subject is confined, kidnapped, killed or disposed of any way the empire sees fit. so the "citizenship" in the empire has always been part of the lie and myth complex.

    HURRIET, ADALET - SIKTIR AGAIN

    the so-called "reforms" were just evil planning at work. another evil day in another evil empire- it couldn't be any other way when we're talking empires
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  • #2
    Originally posted by antranig View Post
    lets get this straight:

    ALL EMPIRES ARE EVIL

    there are no exception, not even for the osmanli ottoman turkish.

    you can bring up all kinds of examples of how wonderful the millet cattle (people) were treated and give an example of this or that self-hating ermeni:

    oh, look at how nice they were to those little ermeni! they even put one in charge of the navy's camera shop. another one was allowed to copy the sultan's signature for him! the ottoman empire was the nicest, sweetest kindest place for our little ermeni millet.

    YOU MUST BE ON CRACK

    life sucked for 99.999999% of armenians in the ottoman empire from beginning to end. there is only one word to say to that pack of lies:

    SIKTIR!!

    isn't it so typical of those who defend an evil empire that they make these pathetic lies, excuses, and rationalizations.

    no sane person can tell me the crushing weight of an empire that denies all of your simplest human rights is something they would want.

    3rd, 4th, or 5th

    below second class "citizenship". its not citizenship - its being a subject. a subject is basically property owned by the empire. a subject is confined, kidnapped, killed or disposed of any way the empire sees fit. so the "citizenship" in the empire has always been part of the lie and myth complex.

    HURRIET, ADALET - SIKTIR AGAIN

    the so-called "reforms" were just evil planning at work. another evil day in another evil empire- it couldn't be any other way when we're talking empires
    Absolutly agree with every word...
    I have been there... I have seen ruins of St. Karapet!

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    • #3
      Great points Antranig. Something to add would be that when we talk about Turkey, most of the time Turks start to talk about the Genocide 90% of the time. If we want to see what Turkey was like, let Turks who think Turkey was a magical place in the past sum up everything that happened, not only to Armenians. Hell, let's forget about Armenia. So much moer has happened, let's sum all that up and Turkey will STILL have lot's to work out. It's not just the AG that makes Turks look bad. Hope you got my point.
      THE ROAD TO FREEDOM AND JUSTICE IS A LONG ONE!

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      • #4
        With agreeing every single word of first message, I wanna add two ponits more:

        - Turks didnot give up their empire dreams even in their worst situation. So, maybe, recent problems in Turkey may cause from this "dream".

        - All nation-states are also evil, without any exception.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by ardakilic View Post
          With agreeing every single word of first message, I wanna add two ponits more:


          - All nation-states are also evil, without any exception.
          What about lets say Finland? Or Danmark? Or Netherlands?
          This are 100% nation-states.
          I have been there... I have seen ruins of St. Karapet!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by VaheTheGreat(e) View Post
            What about lets say Finland? Or Danmark? Or Netherlands?
            This are 100% nation-states.
            I mean conceptually.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ardakilic View Post
              I mean conceptually.
              Conceptually, my dear friend, Armenia is a nation-state.
              I have been there... I have seen ruins of St. Karapet!

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              • #8
                And Armenia has it's own problems just like every other country, no one can even think of denying that. There are many things I wish I could change.
                THE ROAD TO FREEDOM AND JUSTICE IS A LONG ONE!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by VaheTheGreat(e) View Post
                  Conceptually, my dear friend, Armenia is a nation-state.
                  If you want me to give examples even from Denmark, Finland or Netherlands, i can; mostly from modern history.

                  Conceptually Turkey is a nation-state also.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by ardakilic View Post
                    If you want me to give examples even from Denmark, Finland or Netherlands, i can; mostly from modern history.

                    Conceptually Turkey is a nation-state also.
                    So that is my point : there are nation states and nation state. You cant generalize. You can’t say Denmark is evil, can you?
                    I have been there... I have seen ruins of St. Karapet!

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