Baby Steps

[hrai]

Re: Baby Steps

To some extent a thing becomes what it is called, so if 80 million Turks are taught, and believe, that all of Turkey (with the exception of the "European" part) is in "Anatolia", then all of Turkey is in Anatolia . But this Turkish "Anatolia" doesn't have an existence older than the 1920s. The territory of "Anatolia", when used in it historically correct sense, ends at the valley of the Kizilirmak river - anything east of that is, historically, "Armenia".

Good point Bell, turkey has also been very successful, aided by collaborating "scholars" in having the whole of Asia Minor, Western Armenia and parts of Syria, Mesopotamia described as turkey in books on Ancient History. The steady and consistent use of the name turkey eventually pervades all levels and for neutral readers/viewers the lines become first blurrede and then disappear completely.

[Sako]

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Another step I'd like to add to my list.

Ara Gevorgian, a very famous Armenian composer, released a new soundtrack called Adana. Many might've heard the original instrumental Adana and this is the same music except with lyrics. Very famous singers from many, many different countries have sung the song in their own languages ... including Turkey. The name of the Turkish singer wasn't given away, I think we all know why, but I think this is great news. Just like to also mention that my mom will be singing the Indian version of Adana in a month . My parents are pure Armenian but we've lived in India for ten years and we know Ara Gevorgian for about a year now. My moms a singer naturally, sings in Armenian and Indian, has performed on many different stages in different countries, and now our family, along with Mr. Gevorgian (and the Armenian communities all over the world of course), will have the opportunity to present our history to Indians all over the world.

[may]

Re: Baby Steps

The name of the Turkish singer wasn't given away, I think we all know why, but I think this is great news.

I don't know why, can you please tell me Saco?

[eloweeth]

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Hello,I am new in this forum and sorry for my bad english.

I am Turkish and I wanted to say a big sorry to all of you,hope you don't think all of us are prisoners of what is sometimes being dictated on us. I must say for a very long time I was not even interested in this issue and thinking are these armenians crazy that after such a long time they still have grudge and why do they want us to except this,what they will benefit from this....
But today I have no doubt that it was a genocide which took place.And it is also a fact that turkish people will gradually realize this,there is still time but they will...Please be patient because the other way of forcing them to realize will not make a big change in the public opinion.

So this is a baby step both for my life and on relations among us.Hope a time will come we all leave those things behind and become brother countries of mutual support

[hipeter924]

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Well to put it simply, its pointless denying something that happened. Until people in Turkey are allowed free speech and the genocide is recognized there can't be a true democracy in Turkey.

If the Turkish nationalists succeed in blocking free speech and denying the genocide, then as I have heard some intellectuals say the only way for Turkey is backward.

So good to see you that you understand the issue. It is only a matter of time till Turkey at last kicks extremists and nationalists from power, so some sense of sanity and democracy can return.

[Palavra]

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Realy, what is correlation between genocide recognision and democracy?

am I wrong or there is only one country in world which accepted a genocide. So German democracy is best in world.

Funny.

[hipeter924]

Re: Baby Steps

Realy, what is correlation between genocide recognision and democracy?

am I wrong or there is only one country in world which accepted a genocide. So German democracy is best in world.

Funny.

Free Speech is a main pillar of democracy, remove it and democracy collapses, also removing rational judgment and saying the Armenian Genocide didn't happen only makes it worse.

Correlations don't mean much. Read some psychology.

[hrai]

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Hello,I am new in this forum and sorry for my bad english.

I am Turkish and I wanted to say a big sorry to all of you,hope you don't think all of us are prisoners of what is sometimes being dictated on us. I must say for a very long time I was not even interested in this issue and thinking are these armenians crazy that after such a long time they still have grudge and why do they want us to except this,what they will benefit from this....
But today I have no doubt that it was a genocide which took place.And it is also a fact that turkish people will gradually realize this,there is still time but they will...Please be patient because the other way of forcing them to realize will not make a big change in the public opinion.

So this is a baby step both for my life and on relations among us.Hope a time will come we all leave those things behind and become brother countries of mutual support

Welcome eloweeth.

[may]

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... also removing rational judgment and saying the Armenian Genocide didn't happen only makes it worse.

Could you please elaborate on this part a bit more? Who defines what "rational" means, let alone "the rational judgment"?

Correlations don't mean much. Read some psychology.

Correlation can mean a lot. Read some statistics.

[hrai]

Re: Baby Steps

Could you please elaborate on this part a bit more? Who defines what "rational" means, let alone "the rational judgment"?



Correlation can mean a lot. Read some statistics.

Hi may, I'm trying real hard with the capitals!!