Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

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Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

Geopolitical situation in the world is radically changed.
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USA democrats won presidential elections; because voters want to return the USA army home, reduce the budget deficit, promote industrial growth and, at the same time, ensure that US strategic interests in the Middle East are not affected.

Democrats are patriots of their country, therefore their primary goal is not to maintain Iraq's territorial integrity; just to accommodate Turkey's national interests (Preventing Kurds to establish a Kurdish state in Iraq) at any cost to USA.

Growing instability in Iraq and collapse of USA projections on creating pro-American United Iraqi government, within reasonable cost and timeframe, failed. Because America wanted do it without breaking it into three states, Kurdish Sunni and Shia; to comfort Turkey’s national interests.

This radically changed political situation, during recent years, in USA. America, using its military superiority, rapidly occupied the country and apparently it was the most easy; first part of their plan.
And now they are unable (mission impossible) accomplish the second part of their plan, and the end, it is apparent, that way USA can not continue this war. Because, after occupying the country, when Americans are located inside, in large numbers, throughout Iraq, they can not use their only advantage; mass destruction weapons.
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USA voter is aware that the dollar; the US most effective political and military tool is gradually becoming a second grade currency.
I guess, to adjust the situation above, and promote its national interests, US may act this way:
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Letting, not preventing, Kurds create a puppet Kurdish state in Iraq, which will be a natural ally for America. Preliminarily, of cause, ensuring that; most of the Iraqi oil reserves are controlled by Kurds and make sure that they are properly armed to confront Shias, Sunni and eventually – Turkey to free their occupied land.

Expel Turkey form NATO, because USA will have several opportunities for relocating military bases in the region; Kurdistan, Georgia and perhaps the Sunni state.
Relocate military bases from Turkey to Kurdistan.
Return US army home.
Of cause Kurds and Armenia will benefit from this too. But, you know, this is not the primary goal of the action above.

What happened to France-Turkish relations after passing the Armenian Genocide bill … nothing! Now Turks are handling their politics with France more cautiously and politely, than ever before, that is the results are positive for France.

Obama declared that, in August 2010, US troops will be taken out of Iraq. This radically changes the situation in the Middle East and Caucasus. It will change all the US relationships; soon you’ll see that US politics there would be reversed radically.

Soon, when US troops are out of Iraq: Kurdish factor will be augmented in the Region. Now they are Federative Iraq’s Kurdish Republic. But as the Iraqi current developments indicate vividly: the Sunni, Sheit and Kurds conduct de facto war against each other and only the US presence prevents them breaking down Iraq into three independent states. Thus Iraq’s break down is inevitable. And then the Kurdish State created in Iraq (or at least the Kurdish Republic of the Federative Iraq) will accelerate the Kurdish rebellion movement in Turkey: resulting in splitting down it into several parts: the smallest part will belong to Seljuks.

And the Kurdish rebellion movement in Turkey is under way now, you know ...

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Armenian TV channels reported about political instability in Iraq between Sunni, Sheit and Kurd; Mass Media doesn’t report much on that and Kurdish rebellion in Turkey; pipeline blasts, Turkish solder killings, etc.
Don’t we have someone in our Forum with close ties in Iraq and Kurds in Turkey to comment the situation there?
Reports on taking out US army completes all the required preconditions for expected radical territorial map redrawing developments in the Meade East and Caucasus.

[londontsi]

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http://asbarez.com/87495/leaked-us-military-documents-show-army-sees-pkk-as-%e2%80%98freedom-fighters%e2%80%99/

Leaked US Military Documents Show Army Sees PKK as ‘Freedom Fighters’

WASHINGTON (Today’s Zaman)–The US Army considers members of the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), classified by the US and Turkey as a terrorist organization, as “freedom fighters,” according to leaked classified documents disclosed by WikiLeaks this week.

Turkey is mentioned in 128 of 391,000 confidential documents leaked by the whistleblower website that revealed the shocking civilian death toll in Iraq. In one document, the PKK is exalted as “freedom fighters.” The documents refer to a PKK group captured in Fallujah in 2004 as “freedom fighters who are citizens of Turkey.” The timing of this document comes shortly after Turkey’s Parliament decided not to allow the US to deploy troops in Turkey to attack Iraq.

Among the documents is a note about a PKK member caught in 2006, which states that it might be risky to hand him over to Iraqi police. Another document includes a report showing that a large number of Turks were arrested in Fallujah, the base of Sunni resistance fighters. A document from February 2007 reported that an Iraqi who resides in Turkey provided chemical gas used in several attacks by al-Qaeda there. WikiLeaks’ new revelations were seen as shocking by many, as US documents show that the civilian death toll in Iraq since the 2003 invasion has reached 115,000. This includes only the number of documented deaths.

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http://asbarez.com/87495/leaked-us-m...ters%e2%80%99/


Leaked US Military Documents Show Army Sees PKK as ‘Freedom Fighters’

WASHINGTON (Today’s Zaman)–The US Army considers members of the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), classified by the US and Turkey as a terrorist organization, as “freedom fighters” according to leaked classified documents disclosed by WikiLeaks this week.
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Nothing in the world can stop the fight of the oppressed/occupied nations against the barbarians. We won our fights in ..., Sardarabad, Arthakh and proved de facto that we/oppressed are able to conquer, frighten and force the beast to retreat, cleaning out our land of the crap.
PKK fight against Seljuks gains momentum, because US army isn’t there to support Turkey. And Kurds now united and inspired by our recent achievements are ready to start the final attack; with indirect support of Armenians and the rest of nations that suffered genocide.

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Turks started court hearings against, about 150, PKK members and are eager to conceal the fact. They are not commenting it internally and don’t let foreign journalists to attend the hearings.
But the efforts are doomed to fail, the large scale confrontation between Turkey and Kurds is under way.

[araratsi]

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They thought we were a problem now they will see what a real problem is.
Once this gets going it will last for years

[retro]

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Looks like the Kurds aren't fans of Kemalist TV.

Danish court rules in favour of Kurdish satellite broadcaster

Copenhagen - A Danish court on Tuesday ruled that police had acted wrongfully in seizing money belonging to a Copenhagen-based Kurdish satellite broadcaster as part of a probe into its alleged links to the outlawed Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK).

In August, police had ordered the freezing of bank accounts holding a total of 327,000 kroner (60,000 dollars) and being used by the Roj-TV station.

The seizure of the funds was part of an ongoing investigation into allegations that that Roj-TV is supporting terrorism by airing pro- PKK interviews and programmes.

Hundreds of Kurds gathered near the Copenhagen court to celebrate. Some held placards, and chanted slogans such as 'Kurds also have right to freedom of speech.' Prosecutors meanwhile filed an appeal.

Authorities in Turkey have been urging Denmark to shut down Roj- TV, which it says is a mouthpiece for the PKK. The PKK has been waging an armed separatist struggle against the government since the mid 1980s.

The United States and the European Union regards the PKK as a terrorist group.

In 2005, the Turkish embassy in Denmark filed a complaint with police, saying Roj-TV violated Danish terrorism laws.

Later that year, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan stayed way from a joint news conference with then Danish premier Anders Fogh Rasmussen in protest against the presence of a Roj-TV reporter.

http://www.monstersandcritics.com/ne...te-broadcaster

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http://www.panarmenian.net/eng/politics/news/55861/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed:+panarmenian/AMUf+%28Top+News+-+PanARMENIAN.Net%29

Why Joe Biden decided to slander Armenian President?
October 27, 2010
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commenting on the dialogue between an Armenian community representative with the U.S. Vice President, who stated that “Armenia’s President called him, asking the Obama Administration to refrain from recognizing the Armenian Genocide on the eve of the roadmap agreement and President Obama’s April 24 statement.”

“It was the Armenian President that called me and said ‘Look, do not force this issue now, while we are in negotiations’,” Biden said in the video.

What do you think about this? Does US plan initiating political instability in Armenia?

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http://www.panarmenian.net/eng/polit...RMENIAN.Net%29


What do you think about this? Does US plan initiating political instability in Armenia?

I believe Joe Biden in this case. He's very outspoken and does not pull any punches.

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I believe Joe Biden in this case. He's very outspoken and does not pull any punches.

It’s hard to believe, but that high ranking politician can’t tell something like that w/o having evidence to prove his words. Let’s see ...