Kurds and Armenians

[kurdman]

Re: Kurds and Armenians

It sounds like it. Armenians... Assyrians... what difference does it make?

I know you read that on Wikipedia. Do not trust it, it is lies! the very name 'Assyrian' is debatable these days! I have sources of a British man that visited Kurdistan to do research in 1908 and he mentions everyone (Kurds, Armenians, Yazidis, Shabaks) except Assyrians! he does however mention nestorian Christians who spoke Kurdish and were part of Kurdish tribes! if you read other British sources, you will see that the brits tried to take advantage of the fact that some Kurds were christian and even tries to convert all Kurds to Christianity! you will also find that the brits had the 'levis' a force under British command mostly manned by christian! I seriously doubt Assyrian exist anymore. As for the massacre, it is stated in a book written by a Russian professor that it was indeed conducted by Armenians with Russian aid. You can deny it! makes you no different from the Turks.

[Zartonq]

Re: Kurds and Armenians

Way to show the noobs who's boss

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Kurds and Armenians

It sounds like it. Armenians... Assyrians... what difference does it make?

If Armenians paid a proper interest to the history of their neighbours then this Kurdish propaganda could be dismissable in seconds.

It does seem though that in the post WW1-period the Assyrians became as meek as beaten dogs, and willingly sat at the feet of those who had done the beating, stating, whenever asked, that they had such kindly and forgiving masters and that they would never again stray at the behest of those "Powers" and their promises of better dog food and no beatings. So, Assyrian sources are often not trustworthy.

[Federate]

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Read some books. Educate yourself, these facts are well documented! Rawanduz is not even in Anatolia, it's in Iraq, and when the Russians were in town, the Armenians massacared so many Kurds. By your logic you are an arse-licker of the ruskies.

Russians and Assyrians massacred kurds in Rawandiz. But then we're all the same to you aren't we?

It sounds like it. Armenians... Assyrians... what difference does it make?

[bell-the-cat]

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That land is Kurdistan. Assyrians in the KRG are largely pro-Kurd, don't listen to the brainwashed western Assyrians. I'm 1/4 Assyrian myself. Assyrians are forced to flee? what are you crazy? since 2003, thousands of Assyrian families of moved to Kurdistan from Baghdad and other places where they are oppressed, where as in Kurdistan they receive all the rights we receive! they learned Aramaic in government funded schools, pray in government funded new built churches and free to celebrate their cultural seasons! have you seen the Assyrian new 'Akitu' in Duhok?

Kurds doing in Duhok what Kurds do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Dohuk_riots

[Mos]

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Assyrians have their own radio and newspapers which are partially subsidized by the government. I don't know about the schools, but Armenia also does not have a large Assyrian population, no more than 6,000. Also, Armenia doesn't try to divide people by race or ethnicity or religion. If you are a citizen of Armenia then you receive the same rights as an ethnic Armenian.

As for the history. Not sure what you mean. It is undeniable that Armenians have been in Asia Minor far longer than the Kurds, specifically the Armenian Highlands and the Caucasus.

In general our minorities are very happy with the rights and treatment given by Armenia. Yezidis for example are generally very positive with the rights/treatment of them. They in return eagerly fought on our side during Karabakh war.

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Kurds and Armenians

Get back in your tent.

Written by a 20-post wonder.

....I wonder how many posts these newbies think they need to make before they think they own the place? Five, two, none at all?

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Kurds and Armenians

xxxx off from our forum this is an armenian forum and not a kurdish, there is no place for a sun of a xxxxx ...

Written by a 37-post wonder.

[Armanen]

Re: Kurds and Armenians

I will refrain from talking about history because we will just not agree. As for the Assyrians, it is indeed unique because in christian majority towns they have special rights, i.e Muslims can't but properties there! it is somewhat like a de-facto autonomy they have there. In Armenia does the government pay for schools that teach Aramaic first and Armenian second? because in Kurdistan, in Assyrian schools (there are a total of 25,000 Assyrian children enrolled in Assyrian schools) they learn Aramaic first, and Kurdish second! not only that, the government funds free housing for displaced Assyrians and tries to get them jobs. Some of the most patriotic Kurds were actually Assyrian, for example Franso Hariri (the Erbil stadium is named after him). Come to think of it, the first lady to join the Peshmerga ranks was either Assyrian or Armenian. I'm not sure.

As for Syria, the opposition has agreed to Kurdish autonomy after many behind the door meetings in Erbil and Washington, we can easily send politically able people from Erbil to Syria to rule the region once it happens.

"Chairman of the Nationalist Movement Party (MHP) Devlet Bahçeli has said that his party is concerned about a promise by Syrian opposition forces to grant autonomy to that country's Kurdish minority."

http://www.todayszaman.com/news-272776-mhp-concerned-about-syrian-oppositions-support-for-kurdish-autonomy.html

"ERBIL, Iraqi Kurdistan -- The United States has urged Syria’s two major opposition umbrella groups to unite and for Kurdish rights to be recognized by Arab opposition groups, according to Abdulhakim Bashar, the head of Kurdish National Council (KNC).

Bashar, who attended the Feb. 24 Friends of Syria conference in Tunisia, said the request came during a meeting he had with Burhan Ghalioun, the head of Syrian National Council (SNC), and U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. "

http://www.rudaw.net/english/news/syria/4473.html

Assyrians have their own radio and newspapers which are partially subsidized by the government. I don't know about the schools, but Armenia also does not have a large Assyrian population, no more than 6,000. Also, Armenia doesn't try to divide people by race or ethnicity or religion. If you are a citizen of Armenia then you receive the same rights as an ethnic Armenian.

As for the history. Not sure what you mean. It is undeniable that Armenians have been in Asia Minor far longer than the Kurds, specifically the Armenian Highlands and the Caucasus.

[retro]

Re: Kurds and Armenians

Don't base your opinion on what some kids that have never even spent a day in Kurdistan tell you, or what you read in bias media. I can safely tell you that the situation for Assyrians in Kurdistan is not perfect, but they are not treated differently than the average Kurd is.

Kurdistan is rising! western 'Syrian' Kurdistan is next.

Well some of the nouveau riche, oil Kurds in Kirkuk are certainly doing well.