Peace at home, peace on earth:Mustafa Kemal Ataturk

[guaco]

So we restore Ani to make money and what restorators do in reality is to destroy Ani?
If you have any small proof please inform me. Unfortunately you only throw up these paranoid illusions.

[guaco]

Correction, Ani is making money for Turkey. You see, Turkey has started a "restoration" process of Ani which the government pays the contractors (I call them mercenaries) to restore. Sounds good right, restoring Ani? Wrong. They're not exactly restoring it.. what they're doing is just tearing it down and building other stuff there and calling it "restoration"... these Turkish contractors make money off building this crap on OUR lost city. So Turks do have a small profit to make from Ani. But yes, we should get it back.

Why are you so obsessive to consider everything that Turks do as "bad"?
Do you think that paranoia can bring you anywhere?
How do you create such conspiracy theories, this is the most enjoyable part of this site, to read such things above.

[HyeJinx1984]

Seriously, what good is Ararat and Ani to the Turks? The land around Ararat is not only extremely close to Armenia but there is practically nothing there. It's not like Turkey would lose some metropolis, they'd lose some Kurdish sheepfarmers! And yet, Armenians all over the world would be extactic. Same with Ani, Turks aren't doing anything with it, not like they'd lose any tourism revenue they barely talk about it. They'd lose like 2 square miles of land to give Armenia the land from the border to Ani, yet once again Armenians would be so happy. Those are the only parts of Historical Armenia I'd actually advocate going for, because they are so symbolic and Turkey has no connections to them. Yet they won't even take a small step like that to improving relations, let alone recognizing the genocide. I just really hope that someday they will see it fit to make some of those concessions which seriously will have no affect on Turkey and yet will do a world of good towards improving relations. That can't happen while we have a military border guard staring down at Armenia..

Correction, Ani is making money for Turkey. You see, Turkey has started a "restoration" process of Ani which the government pays the contractors (I call them mercenaries) to restore. Sounds good right, restoring Ani? Wrong. They're not exactly restoring it.. what they're doing is just tearing it down and building other stuff there and calling it "restoration"... these Turkish contractors make money off building this crap on OUR lost city. So Turks do have a small profit to make from Ani. But yes, we should get it back.

[IAmMadAtAC]

Ararat

Seriously, what good is Ararat and Ani to the Turks? The land around Ararat is not only extremely close to Armenia but there is practically nothing there. It's not like Turkey would lose some metropolis, they'd lose some Kurdish sheepfarmers! And yet, Armenians all over the world would be extactic. Same with Ani, Turks aren't doing anything with it, not like they'd lose any tourism revenue they barely talk about it. They'd lose like 2 square miles of land to give Armenia the land from the border to Ani, yet once again Armenians would be so happy. Those are the only parts of Historical Armenia I'd actually advocate going for, because they are so symbolic and Turkey has no connections to them. Yet they won't even take a small step like that to improving relations, let alone recognizing the genocide. I just really hope that someday they will see it fit to make some of those concessions which seriously will have no affect on Turkey and yet will do a world of good towards improving relations. That can't happen while we have a military border guard staring down at Armenia..

[TJ]

Being a little harsh arent we? For once we get a Turk who seems to be open minded, and trust me, you wont find many that are as openminded as loveaturk. I think a lot of people here are really really pissed off and they take things that arent meant to be offensive really offensively sometimes, instead of attacking them let them understand what it is about what they said that pisses you off. So loveaturk I dont think Armenia wants any reperations, at least not officialy, but i think that in the long run, a nice gesture would be to give us Ararat, it is after all our national symbol and our lands, always changing have always revolved around it, as very thin link to the Black sea wouldnt be bad either, and i dont think this is much sacrifice forthe turks, after all these are some of the most uninhabited and least developed lands in turkey, but any move of the kind would be a very nice symbolic gesture and would make practically all Armenians happy beyond belief. Right now i dont think Armenia needs any more wars or anything of the kind, lets catch up with Europe and spend our time on developing the economy of the country the state of our people and the reputation of our country as a whole, and as for our neighbors, well lets act like neighbors for once and address whats right and whats wrong and help each other through understanding.

[Sip]

Everything done politically always ends up causing more problems....

Heheheh ... yah like how world war III didn't happen and now we have all these people left on earth causing all these new problems

But I do agree with everything else you said.

[Hayq]

Historic Armenia will always been known as ARMENIA historically! They will never change the lands that were once Armenia and right Anatolia (now modern turkey). No matter how much the Turks want to believe, they are not Anatolian natives, and furthermore, Armenians had built a kingdom and have been known throughout the world in roman, greek, persian, arab, babylonian and so many other people's scripts. I believe the Armenians are in the bible? I have never read it, can you guys help me on this?

Those lands are no longer Armenian, they are Turkish lands, HISTORIC ARMENIA is now TURKEY. Like it or not we have to call it Eastern Turkey. Just like the Irish have to call the northern part of ireland, NORTH IRELAND. We as Armenians, if we want those lands, have to take it back by brutal force and not by politics. Everything done politically always ends up causing more problems. We have to militarily march into Turkey and take back those lands...until then...it is EASTERN TURKEY.

[Crimson Glow]

What is your inferiority complex about "being whit skinned europeans"?

What is your inferiority complex with the constant use of the phrase inferiority complex?

[dstyle]

Still say **** Ataturk.

[guaco]

What is your inferiority complex about "being whit skinned europeans"?