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Armenians - Turks - the provocation starts in Europa

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  • #21
    Why did you ban Pyunik?

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    • #22
      funny thesis of EEK...

      Originally posted by !EEK
      Try to find in histroy books what he did to christians under his regime
      we do not need any history books to see what the taliban does to the turkish muslims , under a name of islamic organization... and that means hitler may do the same thing to the other christians... i mean tortures of hitler to the other christians under his regime , does not change the truth... he was exactly a christian...

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      • #23
        Hitler wasn't exactly a Christian, he hated Jesus for being a Jew. I really don't understand what you are writing civciv and why are you writing about Hitler in the present tense?

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        • #24
          Hitler was part of the Rothcild family, a jew.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by dstyle
            Hitler was part of the Rothcild family, a jew.
            dstyle, it is rumored that Hitler's illegitimate (mother/father not sure which one) was half Jewish, but if that story is true it would only make him 25% Jewish. Being a Jew is a largely religious as well as ethnic thing as well, and so calling Hitler a Jew would be pretty out of line because
            1. It's not even proven and
            2. Even if he was, he is majority German so you can't call him (just) "a Jew".

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            • #26
              whenever whoever sais that jesus was jewish? He if someone wasnt jewish, as his ideology is totally oppsosed to judaism.

              youre mocking all christians by saying - HITLER WAS CHRISTIAN.
              How ignorant can you get? Its like saying all muslims are like the talibans, wich is untrue isnt it? Because yes the talibans are muslim But not all muslims stand for the same thing as the talibans are doing???

              idiotic statement. Hitler was a stupid xxxxxxx just like Ataturk was.
              Last edited by Tres Bien; 12-24-2004, 03:25 PM.

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              • #27
                Basically it's not so much of an Islam vs Christianity thing as it is a biological thing. In the end, no matter what, biology always trumps ideology. The Turks have always been a warrior like blood lusting people and will remain so.
                Achkerov kute.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Tres Bien
                  whenever whoever sais that jesus was jewish? He if someone wasnt jewish, as his ideology is totally oppsosed to judaism.
                  Are you trying to tell me Jesus wasn't Jewish? PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE don't tell me you are saying Jesus wasn't Jewish, PLEASEEEE! Seriously, what the hell. He freaking grew up in what is now Israel to Jewish parents, grew up within the temple, and up until his death was celebrating the Jewish holiday of Passover with his followers. If these don't make him Jewish I don't know what does! I think a lot of anti-Jewish people (many Armenians are amongst these) like to pretend that Jesus was a Christian or something and think that oh no he wasn't like the Jews, he was totally different and much better, but I'm sorry the plain and simple truth is Jesus was a Jew his entire life and there is no arguing any differently.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by -Pyunik-
                    Whether he had Jewish blood or not, he was manipulated by Jews and the fact remains Hitler was the best thing that happened for the Jewish people. Up until Hitler they were hated, despised and persecuted for many, many reasons. Because of Hitler they got Israel, and because of Hitler they now basically have the right to act without impunity, as a whole, and can play the sympathy or "Holocaust" card whenever and however they wish. And so on and so on and so on...
                    While I do feel you sound a little extreme in saying things like Hitler was the best thing to every happen to them and very cruel, you certainly have a point there. Indeed they benefited much from the Holocaust, though it did come at a terrible price. How can you say Jesus was not a Jew though?! That is not Jewish propaganda it's a fact!
                    If you want to go that whole "Jesus was the son of God so he's not Jewish route" how about this: All sects of Christianity recognize Mary as his mother. She was obviously a Jew and Judaism is considered as being passed down through the mother. So even when the father is not Jewish, when the mother is Jewish she passes it on to her children. So in that sense Jesus was most certainly a Jew by virtue of his JEWISH mother. Son of God or not, Jesus was a human and therefor needed to have belonged to a nationality, he wasn't some kind of non-ethnic human. He grew up in a Jewish society under Roman domination, and of course was deeply connected with Jewish traditions throughout his ministry and stuff. Jesus- along with his disciples- being anything but a Jew all his life is simply absurd to say.

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                    • #30
                      I still crack up when I hear people getting mad at Jews for killing Jesus. Apparently they've forgotten that Jesus's whole purpose for coming to Earth in the first place was to, in fact, die. The whole point of his existence was to attone for our sins by dying. Everyone always talks about "God's plan"... well, it was God's plan for him to come down here to be killed so our sins could be washed away.. the Jews were simply carrying out GOD'S plan.. after all he said "forgive them, for they know not what they do"... wow, forgive them , another thing all these Jew-haters seem to forget. To me it just seems so silly to hate the Jews for basically CREATING our entire belief structure which is based on atonement and forgiveness. Dumb asses.
                      "All I know is I'm not a Marxist." -Karl Marx

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