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how about the decimated Turkic population of Karabagh by Armenians??
It is an obvious massacre
It is an obvious massacre
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What happened in Artsakh is called defense, correcting the mistakes of history and revenge. What happened to the Azeris in Artsakh was just an Armenian training program.
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Originally posted by Attila
The small amount of azeris living in Karabagh became REFUGEES after the occupation, there was no massacre of turkic population. So interesting, why do you make stuff up
? And there were only like 40,000 azeris living in Karabagh, about 77 of Karabakh's population was Armenian.
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Atilla before you make vague charges based on lack of information I suggest you check out a few things. Start by investigating these places and dates: Summgait Baku and Tashkent - 1988, 1989 and 1990
An interesting account:
The Kirovabad pogrom coincided with an upsurge of anti-Armenian activity in Baku. On November 18, 1988 an Azeri-Turk was sentenced to death in Moscow for his role in the Sumgait massacre. The next day a mass demonstration took place in Baku, protesting against the death sentence. For the next three weeks such nationalist demonstrations were regular occurrences in Baku. The rallies involved over 500,000 Azeri-Turks. 'Death to Armenians' and 'Armenians out of Azerbaijan' and other anti-Armenian slogans featured prominently. But it was not till January 1990 that Armenian blood was shed in Baku on a mass scale. On January 12, the eve of a mass rally in the city's Lenin Square, radical Azeri-Turk nationalists of Azerbaijan's anti-communist Popular Front were allowed to broadcast appeals for the defense of Azerbaijan's sovereignty from the demands of the Armenians. Meanwhile, groups of young Azeri-Turks began to roam the streets, terrorizing Armenians and warning them to leave town. On the 13th the murders got under way. The police failed to intervene. The Armenian Abram Kazaryan, a war veteran and resident of Baku since 1920 reported: "The pogrom started on the tenth of January. A man came to my door and said: 'Leave, old man. Your time is up. Your people have left. and you should leave.' If he had been alone. I'd have chased him away. But there were three of them. I said: I'm an old man, I have no place to go.' On the twelfth, about twenty of them came, and they broke down the door. I tried to fight them, and yelled for help. On the morning of the thirteenth, I went to the police and filed a complaint. They said 'O.K.' and did nothing. I stayed at home and propped the door up as best I could, but there was nothing to repair it with. That evening, at six, they came again. They rang the bell and knocked. I could see there were a lot of them in the courtyard. I put my coat on and went to open the door. As I got there, it came down on me. It fell on me. I think they had an axe. There were four of them. and then it seemed like forty. They beat me and threw me on the floor and started trarnpling me. They broke three ribs, right. . . and threw me down the stairs. I lost consciousness. When I opened my eyes, they were carrying my things away - the rugs, the TV, everything. My pockets and clothes were torn, and they'd taken my documents. Two of them stood guard over me to keep me from running away. I said to them: 'Why are you beating up an old man?' They didn't answer. They put me in a car and took me to a movie theatre and threw me into a basement with some others. We were there for a day and a half." (Cullen, pp. 69-70) Mr. Kazaryan was deported across the Caspian Sea to Turkmenistan on a steamer together with 1,500 other Armenians. Eventually he reached Yerevan. Azaddin Gyulmamedov, a young Azeri-Turk who witnessed the outbreak of antiArmenian violence while he attended the Popular Front rally in Baku on the 13th, gave the following account: "We went to see what was happening. We saw these guys in the streets. I don't know who they were drug addicts, maybe. They had sticks and clubs, and lists of Armenians and where they lived. They wanted to break down the doors of Armenian apartments and chase them out. The police didn't do anything. They just stood and watched. Same with the soldiers, who had weapons. We asked them to help. There were about a dozen soldiers and ten of us, and there were about twenty in the gang, but the soldiers wouldn't help. They said: 'You can do it yourself, Blackie. We're not getting involved." (Cullen, p. 70) Soviet troops moved into Baku on January 19, leaving death and destruction in their wake. The anti-Armenian crowds had turned anti-Soviet and surrounded the building of the Central Committee of the Azerbaijani Communist Party. But the anti-Armenian pogrom had already run its course, leaving 68 dead, according to the customarily low official figures. A mere 1,800 Armenians remain in Baku. Most are believed to be married to Azeri-Turks or are the offspring of mixed marriages. Within months of the Baku pogrom, Azerbaijan had been virtually 'cleansed' of Armenians.Comment
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see - this is what i mean... we defend ourselves and they call us the perpetrators... i am in awe and simply disgusted by these stupid claims...
this claims will never be up held in any sane court - they are erroneous and frivolous! i am appalled! ARG!!!
and i hope we didnt forget this -
NYTimes.com
Azerbajani Kills Armenian at Peace Program
February 19, 2004
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Filed at 11:13 a.m. ET
BUDAPEST, Hungary (AP) -- An Armenian military officer attending a NATO Partnership for Peace program was hacked to death on Thursday morning with an ax and a knife by an Azerbaijani participant, police officials said.
``We suspect Ramil S. of having committed murder with unusual cruelty,'' Budapest Police Maj. Valter Fulop told reporters. ``We say 'unusual cruelty' because beside a number of knife wounds on his chest, the victim's head was practically severed from his body.''
The Armenian Defense Ministry identified the suspect as Lt. Ramil Safarov of Azerbaijan and the victim as Lt. Gurgen Markarian of Armenia. ``We detained the suspect, who did not put up any resistance,'' Fulop said. The interrogation of Safarov and witnesses -- including Markarian's Hungarian roommate -- was under way, said Police Maj. Jozsef Szigeti.
The officers were attending an English language course within the framework of the Partnership for Peace program, which is aimed at increasing cooperation between neutral and former Soviet bloc nations and NATO in peacekeeping and other areas. Police said a political motive for the murder was among the possibilities being considered and were also looking into how the suspect obtained the murder weapons.
The Armenian Defense Ministry's statement said the murder was ``a result of the bellicose anti-Armenian propaganda, unleashed by the authorities of Azerbaijan lately.'' The killing, at the Hungarian University of National Defense, comes a month after Azerbaijan refused to allow three Armenian officers to attend a conference held in the country's capital, Baku, under the aegis of the NATO program.
Relations between the two former Soviet Republics remain tense after Armenian-backed forces drove Azerbaijan's army out of the ethnic Armenian enclave of Nagorno-Karabakh in the early 1990s. Despite a 1994 cease-fire ending the war that killed 30,000 people and left about 1 million homeless, no agreement has been reached on the territory's final status. Azerbaijan's newly elected President Ilham Aliev said in January that Azerbaijan reserved the right to use ``all possibilities'' to solve the dispute.Comment
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lol, I meant to say 77% in my previous post.
This forum sucks, you can never edit your posts!
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once upon a time we deported you for defence,now you are calling it a GENOCIDE...
I wonder why didn't the Turanists killed you all??However they made a "massacre",didn't they??
When it comes to you it becomes a defence...
when it comes to us,it is a MASSACRE!!!
well,let me tell you the turth,in the light of the Clash of Civilizations
Turks wont be able to enter the European Union.The religionist Arab and Persian lovers who is ruling TR will try to make the Islamic Union of Middle East but the arabs and Iranians wont agree to join the same union with the "infidel Turks".then the Turks will turn their heads to Bishkek,Ashkabath,Astana etc...,to the countries where their long forgotten but beloved kins live.The result will be "TURAN".the only thing standing between Turkey and TURAN will be the Armenians and a USAcontroled Georgia.The Turks,desperate to find a new home will blindly eliminate the weak and semi evolved race of Arians,the Armenians,giving georgia a time to rest and enough living space. Turks will show a good attitude towards russia.The "near-forming" of Turan and the closurity between Turkey and Russia will make USA anxious,thus making TR and USA enemies...Turks will eliminate the semi-developed Georgians too,taking their living space and lands,making Russia feel relaxed because of the death of a satellite of USA near him,as an opportunity.Then the Turan will be established...
While those things were happening,the semi chimpanzee population of America will decimate most of the Arabs.The survivors will be assimilated during the time...when the inferior kind of USA become much more powerful,the Turan will destroy the jews,which itself is a race far below the reaches of race of evolution,which always survived in means of strange "miracles"(like the pharaoh was about to chop them all,but smth happened,-I do not know how-,and they survived). receiving no help from the wealthy and relatively clever jews,The semiorangotanic people(People of USA) will perish and soon the nature will destroy them...
Then it will be the clash of Europeans,Russians,Turanics and some other non significant powers...
It is the awful future waiting for you!Comment
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i'm going to write a complaint letter to the turkish government to request to cut all the internet access from their mental hospitals...Originally posted by AttilaComment
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Originally posted by Հարութ
Do you mean those places in Turkey called "University of (fill in the blank)"Comment
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I'm going to Artsakh soon, Attila. You want to have some coffee there?Comment
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