ASALA and Turkish Hatred in the guise of genocide justification.

[karoaper]

Unfortunately I already reported his post to the admins. He might get the boot. This one deserves it.

[Siggie]

Catwoman - It was certainly more than enough.

Bezjian - There are many posts to read to satisfy some of your curiousity. It's usually the same few weak arguements that are made. The TOS and rules must be respected in the communication, otherwise me must remove it.

[bezjian]

Catwoman - It was certainly more than enough.

Bezjian - There are many posts to read to satisfy some of your curiousity. It's usually the same few weak arguements that are made. The TOS and rules must be respected in the communication, otherwise me must remove it.

siggie, do what you have to do. i guess i am just naieve and want to believe we are dealing with rational people here. i want to see what these people do when they are actually confronted with facts. that they can get away with accusing armenians of being traitors, after all the contributions armenians made to ottoman society (architecture, theater, music, trade, being a major part of the tax base, militarily even) and then thinking about the decades and centuries of massacres and abuse armenians had to put up with, makes my blood boil. every accusation they make can be countered in some way. they need to be called out on their lies.

[Siggie]

For the most part, they either seem to ignore them or believe they are false.

[Pamooshjian]

Like you don't know what he's gonna say... aren't you tired of their stories already?

I agree. If we heard them once we've heard them a thousand times. None of their stories hold water yet they keep regurgitating the same things over and over again because they have nothing else.

It was a a civil war, we genocide them, they relocated us for our own safety, they were there first, we're trying to steal what is rightfully theirs etc etc. I've heard it all before and I really don't see why we have to argue about these things or discuss them with turks everytime they feel like repeating this same old tired nonsense. It didn't work the first time and it didn't work the tenth, twentieth or even the hundredths time and it certainly won't work today, but somehow think that one day it's going to work. I say let them yry to convince the world they they are innocent and that it was they who were the victims of Armenian agression, but I can't agree with giving them space her in this forum to do it in.

Personally I have no time to waste trying to reason with a brick and I'm not all that into kicking a dead horse. We have all the proof and evidence we could ever need and I don't see why we should ha have to bother trying to conving the turks as if to say they don't know and we want to educate them. They know very well what happened but they still don't get it and I seriously doubt if they ever will.

[anoush719]

siggie, do what you have to do. i guess i am just naieve and want to believe we are dealing with rational people here. i want to see what these people do when they are actually confronted with facts. that they can get away with accusing armenians of being traitors, after all the contributions armenians made to ottoman society (architecture, theater, music, trade, being a major part of the tax base, militarily even) and then thinking about the decades and centuries of massacres and abuse armenians had to put up with, makes my blood boil. every accusation they make can be countered in some way. they need to be called out on their lies.

I was going to just report the post but then I saw your request and decided to post a reply to the guy. However, I didn't realize that you really believed you were dealing with "rational" people. Brick is a good description, you would better try and reason with a brick. You would be better off beating on a dead horse, hoping it will gallop you on to Syracuse before you could expect them to give up on their lies.

[Pamooshjian]

siggie, do what you have to do. i guess i am just naieve and want to believe we are dealing with rational people here. i want to see what these people do when they are actually confronted with facts. that they can get away with accusing armenians of being traitors, after all the contributions armenians made to ottoman society (architecture, theater, music, trade, being a major part of the tax base, militarily even) and then thinking about the decades and centuries of massacres and abuse armenians had to put up with, makes my blood boil. every accusation they make can be countered in some way. they need to be called out on their lies.

But they're not rational as we have seen repeatedly. We have seen time and time again what they do when confronted with facts, the only thing they do is post nonsense which is totally absurd to anyone who knows what turks are really like. Those thousands of diplomats, travellers and historians didn't imagine or dream up all those things they have written about the turks. Every accusation the turks have made has already been countered many times and their lies have been utterly destroyed. It has already been done by the ANC and many other Armenian organizations as well as by Armenians and non-Armenians who are experts in the field and regular Armenians and non Armenians who are just knowledgable on the topic. So I don't see the point of letting turks come here and post the same old and worn out lies on a weekly or daily basis as there is no point to it, because they will just ignore it, only to come back in few days to post the same thing all over again as if it has never been disproved.

Just consider how many books have been written on the Armenian Genocide and the many other massacres prior to that. There are hundreds. How many books are there that deny the AG happened that are written by non-turks? A mere handful. Now doesn't that tell you something? The turks will probably say that we paid them all to write that stuff.

BTW, that DVD they put out will end up doing them more harm than good.